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Ynotisay · M
But is it a part of nature? If so, why didn't homo sapiens evolve to be able to handle all weather environments? We lost our hair like a million years ago. So nature tells us we should wear clothes. We wouldn't have evolved without it.
But why I don't get is why nudists don't just say they're exhibitionists. Just own it. I don't get the problem.
But why I don't get is why nudists don't just say they're exhibitionists. Just own it. I don't get the problem.
Ynotisay · M
@Theyitis They said it was a part of nature. I said, accurately, that it wasn't. Unless you live in narrow strip of the equatorial zone, you would die without clothes. Or you could never leave your home. Human beings exist, in the way the are, due to clothes, We evolved without hair for a reason.
Ynotisay · M
@Theyitis First, my comment wasn't to you. It was to the poster. And it was true. Now if that bends you that's a 'you' thing. And yeah. Public nudity is exhibitionism. You know it and I know it. "Being free" is a cop out. What I don't understand is why people just don't own it. It's not a big deal. Nobody cares. But of all the "society is keeping me down" stuff it sure seems like they're controlled by society. Just say you get off on it. That's honest.
Iamnaked · M
@Ynotisay We lost our hair like a million years ago. Yeah Yeah,
Because the rough skins and clothes we wore to stay warm rubbed the hair off.
I know many nudist that do it at home alone. The bulk of the ones I know could care less about anyone ever seeing them or even knowing that they hang out nude.
I am completely comfortable naked with or without anyone being around.
But !
I am also an exhibitionist that gets off on the thrill of being the only one nude around clothed people, the more the better.
Because the rough skins and clothes we wore to stay warm rubbed the hair off.
I know many nudist that do it at home alone. The bulk of the ones I know could care less about anyone ever seeing them or even knowing that they hang out nude.
I am completely comfortable naked with or without anyone being around.
But !
I am also an exhibitionist that gets off on the thrill of being the only one nude around clothed people, the more the better.
Ynotisay · M
@Iamnaked Our hair rubbed off? Uh...
At least you admitted what's at the core. Just like with you saying the majority you know don't care if others know. But they cared enough to tell you, right? They could have just kept it to themselves. But they didn't. And that's fine. Just OWN it. That's the part where I jump off. The justifications.
At least you admitted what's at the core. Just like with you saying the majority you know don't care if others know. But they cared enough to tell you, right? They could have just kept it to themselves. But they didn't. And that's fine. Just OWN it. That's the part where I jump off. The justifications.
Magenta · F
@Ynotisay
Who cares in private but there are a number of common sense reasons we should wear clothes in public.. And if it isn't sexual just look at the comments she got here from older men to prove otherwise.
But why I don't get is why nudists don't just say they're exhibitionists. Just own it.
Spot on! They get a thrill doing it. Who cares in private but there are a number of common sense reasons we should wear clothes in public.. And if it isn't sexual just look at the comments she got here from older men to prove otherwise.
froggtongue · M
@Ynotisay Let's think of this. Wearing clothes is normal for most of the world. Any place you say is developed is going to be where people wearing clothes is considered normal.
But what about the tribes of people in the Amazon and in Africa and other parts? Whole small communities where clothes is practically unheard of. Would you say all those living in those tribes are getting thrills from another person seeing them? For them, it's just a matter of seeing another person. After all you probably don't get excited seeing a woman's face that's not covered just because it's not covered. And that woman isn't likely excited to have you see it. Even though there are cultures where a woman is made to cover her face.
It's difficult to see because – assuming you grew up in a culture where wearing clothes is normal – you can't fathom how it would be to have grown up without clothes. And maybe even more difficult to imagine how if someone grew up with clothes as normal switched to no clothes as normal, that they would reach the mindset that it's no longer exciting just to see a nude body or to show off their nude body. Again, just like a woman who was required to cover her face. She'd move to a place where she should show her face, she'll eventually not see it as taboo any longer.
But what about the tribes of people in the Amazon and in Africa and other parts? Whole small communities where clothes is practically unheard of. Would you say all those living in those tribes are getting thrills from another person seeing them? For them, it's just a matter of seeing another person. After all you probably don't get excited seeing a woman's face that's not covered just because it's not covered. And that woman isn't likely excited to have you see it. Even though there are cultures where a woman is made to cover her face.
It's difficult to see because – assuming you grew up in a culture where wearing clothes is normal – you can't fathom how it would be to have grown up without clothes. And maybe even more difficult to imagine how if someone grew up with clothes as normal switched to no clothes as normal, that they would reach the mindset that it's no longer exciting just to see a nude body or to show off their nude body. Again, just like a woman who was required to cover her face. She'd move to a place where she should show her face, she'll eventually not see it as taboo any longer.
Ynotisay · M
@froggtongue OK. But let's think about this. What I said is there are strips of land where clothes aren't necessary for survival. You said in the Amazon and Africa some tribes, (although that's not really true) go unclothed. So you're agreeing with me.
If it's part of nature then human beings would ONLY live in the very confined stretch of earth. Because we would die in most other places on earth. That's a fact.
It's not about "normal" with any societal connotation. It's about evolution and survival of the species.That's inarguable. We lost our body hair BECAUSE of the advent of clothing which allowed us to migrate.
"Natural" and "normal" is what nudists say to support their desire to be nude. It's not. "Natural" requires clothes in most all areas on earth and "normal" is ALL about how societies run.
But if you don't live around the equator make sure to run around nude in the winter. In the rain or snow. Enjoy being "natural." And don't THINK about putting clothes on. Because that's not "normal."
If it's part of nature then human beings would ONLY live in the very confined stretch of earth. Because we would die in most other places on earth. That's a fact.
It's not about "normal" with any societal connotation. It's about evolution and survival of the species.That's inarguable. We lost our body hair BECAUSE of the advent of clothing which allowed us to migrate.
"Natural" and "normal" is what nudists say to support their desire to be nude. It's not. "Natural" requires clothes in most all areas on earth and "normal" is ALL about how societies run.
But if you don't live around the equator make sure to run around nude in the winter. In the rain or snow. Enjoy being "natural." And don't THINK about putting clothes on. Because that's not "normal."