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What happens if there's a tie?

Winning the election requires 270 electoral votes. It's possible that Harris and Trump could end up in a 268-268 tie. This is called a "contingent election," and according to the Constitution, the House of Representatives chooses the President, with each state delegation getting one vote. This means the 52 representatives from California get one vote, as does the one representative from Wyoming.

The current House has more Republican-majority states than Democratic, but it's the next Congress that will be elected in November that would hold this vote. So if the state delegations are deadlocked 25-25, the Senate would then vote on the Vice-President, who would serve as President until the House elects the new one.

However, if the new Senate is 50-50, they'd be deadlocked too, so the presidency would then go to the Speaker of the House. Get ready for President Mike Johnson. But not so fast, Johnson's current term as Speaker would have ended with the current House, so the new Congress would have to elect a new speaker. It took 15 ballots to elect a Speaker in 2023. If the House is unable to agree on a Speaker, the presidency passes to the Senate President Pro Tem. This is the longest-serving Senator in the majority party. But with a 50-50 Senate, there is no majority party. So the presidency would pass to the next person in line, the Secretary of State, per the Presidential Succession Act.

Cabinet officers' terms don't end with the election; they continue until the next president picks a replacement. So if this happens, we would get Acting President Antony Blinken, the current Secretary of State. If he were unavailable or not interested, the line of succession continues through the various cabinet secretaries in the order their departments were created.

To date, the US has never had a contingent election. No one has succeeded to the presidency other than the vice-president on the president's death or resignation.
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
Like I said, eventual Civil War.

The SupremeCourt and EC will give it to Trump.

Jan. 6th is going to look like childs play.

I'm actively voting third party because I want to see the duoploy break and because I am sick of these money-manipulators & genocidal warmongers.

Jill Stein all the way.

A vote for neoliberal duopoly is a vote for inflation, war & genocide.

I'll add that you're asking the right questions now, @LeopoldBloom.

I pray you wake up and stop being an establishment liberal.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@GeistInTheMachine
I'm actively voting third party because I want to see the duoploy break

Jill Stein all the way.

Yeah I voted for her in 2016. And here she is again. Swell.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster Good, I like you now, Mr. Munster. I am sorry I was ever mean to you.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@GeistInTheMachine 3rd party is a waste of time. It's a vanity run for these people. They know they have no chance, this is just to feed some egos and go around fooling people into believing a 3rd party run has any sort of shot.

There hasn't been a serious 3rd party candidate run since Ralph Nader. We are a long way from Ross Perot and John Anderson now.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster I don't think it's a waste of time because if she gets 5% of the vote then by law the Green Party will get more Media coverage.

Also, it takes votes away From the Genocide Party, so we can usher in the Anti-christ and end times. Win-win.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@GeistInTheMachine Has she done anything in the 8 years she's been President of the Green party? Any local or state level successes she can point to? Seems like she shows up every 4 years to get votes and attention then goes back to hibernation.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster Yup. But I don't really care. It's a protest vote. I'm fine with Trump winning, I want to take votes away from the Zionists. It's an anti-duopoly, anti-Zionist, anti-neoliberal and anti-war vote. That's it.

A wise man once said:

I don't vote FOR, I vote AGAINST.
@GeistInTheMachine You think Trump will be better for the Palestinians? And you think Trump doesn't support Israel? He moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, FFS.
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@LeopoldBloom I want to break the system. If Stein gets 5%, corporate media is forced to take the Green Party seriously and we get a third party and break the duopoly. Vote your conscience.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@GeistInTheMachine So your plan is to break the system by voting for a candidate in the system, essentially participating in the system you seek to break.

SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom I don't take the wretched Hilldawg's accusations seriously. She's evil.

Stein is useless because she, along with the other 3rd party candidates have absolutely no shot and are there to give you the illusion of choice. More infuriating, they all know this and play this game for money, attention and glory.
@SumKindaMunster Stein has always been funded by Putin to take votes from the Democrat.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom Oooh, I'd LOVE to see your evidence of that.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster Stein is actually an outsider, or more so than the other two. And so is the Green Party.

Her potentially getting 5% is the cherry on top. If she's paid by Russia even better! Lmao.


I'm taking a vote away from the Dems and giving Trump more security in FL.

Trump will break the system for me. I'm just voting my concience.

I'm sick of Ukraine, too. So win-win.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@LeopoldBloom
Stein has always been funded by Putin to take votes from the Democrat.

Good! I hope she is! Blame it on the Dems and the electoral system. They had it coming.

You act like I'm voting because I like this country. Lol.
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster The lib has the same evidence as Russiagate! Nothing.
@SumKindaMunster Here you go. Oh, look who else is there. Ultra-patriotic Trump fluffer Mike Flynn.
@GeistInTheMachine Stein is only an outsider because she can't weasel her way inside. 5% is fantasyland. She'll be lucky to break 1%.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom I said evidence, not some public event she attended.
@SumKindaMunster I have no evidence that Putin is funding Stein's campaign. That would be illegal. But Stein has been the beneficiary of Russian attempts to use her to split the Democratic vote, knowingly or not.

https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620

Meanwhile, the Libertarians have peeled Republicans off for years, in greater numbers than Stein has peeled off Democrats. Voting third party may be a waste of time, but in a close election, they can make a difference. If 600 Ralph Nader voters in Florida had voted for Al Gore in 2000, he would have won the state and the presidency.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom So reading that article Bloom, I'm not sure why you still believe she receives Russian aid. The article clearly states otherwise, and totally debunks whatever insinuation you were trying to make with that photo.
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GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
@SumKindaMunster Can't make sense out of lib nonsense. The entire liberal project at this point is untethered from reality and contradictory. The good news is that it's self-defeating, and no one is around to save liberalism from itself this time.

The bigger they are, the harder they fall. It's sad, really.
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Thrust · 56-60, M
@SumKindaMunster

Bloom has been in more farm animals than Purina