Why do political candidates in USA say...IF i lose its rigged?

@Ynotisay That was just impressive.... THANK YOU !!! :-)

@Ynotisay There's also only very weak evidence for shape-shifting reptilian humanoids ruling the Earth, and millions of people are believers.

@Ynotisay Trump is one of those guys, like Nixon and dubya, who thinks if he says something is true that makes it true. Like Lysol cures Covid.

@hunkalove Yep. Different times...same audience.
It's like the Goebell's line. If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes accepted as truth. He's right. That's all it takes. History is full of examples and bad outcomes. But we continue to do it.
Not a good look for our species.

@Ynotisay oddly enough when Trump won, the opposition claimed it was rigged by Russia!

@CheekyBadger Rigging an election is just a little different than influencing an election with lies. Don't ya' think?

@Ynotisay lol sounds like most elections!

@CheekyBadger I don't know. There's zero evidence, zero, that widespread fraud has ever taken place in the U.S.. Our elections are valid. We get that right. So I guess it comes down to what people think 'rigging' is.

@Ynotisay the key there is what is "widespread" - after 2020 elections the msm was stating that there was no evidence of fraud - after the evidence of irregularities became apparent this was changed to "widespread fraud". Given the fairly even split in the voting population it doesn't take many fraudulent votes to sway the result - I don't think anyone reasonable was equating the US election to what happens in some places where there are more votes cast than there are people eligible to vote, but I don't think it is unreasonable to say that there was organised effort to push the result a certain way - some legal and some not. For example the supression of news stories isn't actually illegal but is certainly not in the spirit of fair play.

@CheekyBadger Nope. There is NO evidence, of ANY type of fraud, that would even come close to tipping an election. None. Zero. That's why EVERY Republican led effort to try and prove voter fraud was shot out of the water. To the point that they themselves had to admit it.
There's not two sides to facts. There's only one. Why people choose to ignore it is a whole other conversation. But I might hold off on the 'suppression of news stories" things. People are barking up the wrong tree with that one. Not that it matters. Some will ALWAYS choose belief and conspiracy. It's sad. For all of us.

@Ynotisay my point is that in a system whereby people take part in local elections at a county level (or equivalent) you don't need to have fraud in all the districts to actually make a difference- even if there is quite a difference in the "popular vote" you don't need to actually affect most of the district votes to achieve your desired outcome. If you remember the Florida result back in 2000 where the national election result was decided by 537 votes - this isn't the same as the difference in the popular vote. If a bad-actor had manipulated only 538 votes they could have changed the outcome of that election.

@CheekyBadger So when you have a POTUS on the phone telling a state to FIND me 11000 votes so i dont lose YET not one of his minions think that is wrong... come on now... its recorded ..its played back and he denies he said it..WTF.... yet we can not hold #45 accountable... NOW work with me here.....

How the heck do you account for MILLIONS.... all on one side dem or rep. when those that count votes are a mix of dem and rep(vote counters)... dems dont count votes just for dems and reps dont count votes just for reps. Can you truly imagine what it would take to align ALL of that to actually work. OR am i THAT blind? i think i can see at least a bit.

If i dont like who won #45 i am not crying (well i was when #45 won LOL) but i said he won fair and square and it is what it is...and for some reason his minions just drink up his BS like no other... A person that praises Hitler and loves dictatorship so much that he wants to bring it HERE to USA... yeah NO... you get a total of 8... i dont care who the POTUS is and how good our country is doing you get 8 then get the EFFF out and thank you for doing your job. That is how our system is set up and for someone to try to over throw that ... just red flag after red flag and maybe just maybe #45 minions are the ones with blinders on.

@CheekyBadger OK. But you're talking "if." All that lives beyond a whole lot of firewalls and contingencies. "Is" matters. And the "is" is that there's no evidence to support any kind of fraud or rigging. Anyone believing that rigged elections take place can be discounted immediately as someone who has chosen their beliefs over the facts. There is no gray area.

@Ynotisay i saw evidence of a distinct pattern of behaviour in 2020 in certain places that wasn't conducive to a free and fair election. This ranged from widespread media coverage (or lack thereof) to individual actions taken to manipulate results directly or rules made up by the incumbents that disadvantaged their opposition. Saying that all this didnt happen is effectively calling those who gave witness testimony under oath of such things purjurors. How many of them have been prosecuted for perjury- none that i have heard of. Absence of court cases doesnt mean much, many cases were brought to court but in general courts simply didn't hear these cases that were brought before them for technical reasons. It seemed to me, as an outsider, that allowing these cases to proceed wasn't in the interests of the wider state as it would call into question the way that elections are run.