This is absolutely not ethical??? What happened Canada

End-of-life care
Medical assistance in dying Canada,
People who have mental illness can be assisted with dying,

Those who can help provide medical assistance in dying include:

pharmacists
family members or other people that you ask to help
health care providers who help physicians or nurse practitioners
These people can assist in the process without being charged under criminal law.

If they wont be charged , Can't someone just kill a mentally ill person and get away with it if they won't be charged?????

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There must be some legal process. I doubt you can kill someone and get off saying it’s what they wanted…

And I think people should have a choice. I’ve often felt suicidal and I still self harm sometimes. Rarely, because I allow myself to feel those things instead of sucking it up to exist in the dead cold society. If you give people a choice, if they don’t have to repress their feelings and wants you might be surprised how healing that is in the long term.

Both my parents made it very clear they didn’t ever want to be invalid. My mom used to tell me to kill her before she ended up in a nursing home. She spent a year in a nursing home at 65 because of dementia when it got to the point I was just keeping her alive in her own misery. The docs agreed and she passed away after a week in hospice without all her meds.

My dad had liver failure and was kept alive on ventilators for a few days until my half sis and I said no more.

I watched them both die and I was relieved for them.

People should have a choice. And tbh they do. They just have to hide their feelings until they’re hopeless, then do it behind their loved ones backs always leaving them wondering.

If you stop depriving people of choice, they think more clearly for themselves.

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F

@SW-User Have you ever watched the movie Devil’s Advocate ? You can do anything using laws

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@cherokeepatti I have. And yes. That’s why I said there must be some legal process for assisted suicide. I can’t walk in someone’s house, kill them and say that’s what they wanted.

GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M

@SW-User Exactly! Amen. My thoughts exactly. Many pro life people mean well, I just think they are missing a huge component here.

Like with abortion, prevention and front end support is key so that it doesnt have to even come to that most of the time!

Nuance is despised.

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F

@SW-User They will pass laws and then convince the family or have them sent to a care facility. It happened in Nazi Germany and it can happen again

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@GeistInTheMachine For real!

I could never stop hurting myself until I told myself it wasn’t shameful if I did. People would say don’t and it kinda pissed me off. Don’t hurt. Don’t cry. Don’t feel? But we’re human, we have all the complexities. We don’t fit in cages and belong to some label.

I’m not saying I know how to manage billions of people. But I will say that this one track mindset has humanity spinning out of control. Crashing and burning.

Is Canada allowing assisted suicide sinister? Who tf really knows 🤷🏼‍♀️ I am just happy to see people’s eyes opening up. @cherokeepatti

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F

@SW-User it is sinister when they pushed the vax on people. There are pages of side effects just for the Pfizer vaccine. You think pushing something like this isn’t sinister and then wanting to allow euthanasia to those who are seriously damaged. This is genocide and it was planned out long ago

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@cherokeepatti I’m not vaxxed. I had a choice and I chose not to.

Maybe I’m reading this wrong tbh. I thought this was about assisted suicide? Like if someone is unable to speak for themselves because they are beyond any chance for quality of life. Or if someone was terminally ill.

Is this saying someone can go to therapy and be deemed mentally ill and be prescribed death?

GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M

@SW-User Same, same.

Honestly people are just virtue signaling about this in a pro life way.

How many people opposed to this would give a stranger considering this a second look if they were homeless and in utter despair on the street.

Boils down to "I am offended that some people want to die, so they should continue to suffer until they die in a ditch somewhere alone."

cherokeepatti · 61-69, F

@SW-User it is but th vax is bringing the problems, step one, suicide step two, it is genocide

GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M

@SW-User I regret being vaxxed.

Ironic that I am rapidly approaching being passively suicidal, but if instead I got some disease and died, that would solve my issue of letting people down if I offed myself. I have severe asthma sometimes. COVID would destory my sorry ass.

SW-User

@GeistInTheMachine Well I’m glad every time I see you on here so you know. You’re pretty awesome and big feelings, darkness, shadows, it doesn’t scare me. I see you. I know living is torture, especially when you’re paying attention. Definitely not a sorry ass.

And you’re right. I think taking away people’s choice gives the opposing side just enough control to inflate the ego. Keep the discrimination and arguing flowing.

I’m not distracted by it anymore. I’m on natures side at this point 😂

GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M

@SW-User Considering how much I want to die right now and just how alone, unimportant and betrayed I feel by the people in my life including "family," that really means a lot.

So thank you.

I don't know why the hell it is that relative strangers are often nicer than people I've known for years that claim to give a flying fuck, but are more concerned about themselves while you're on the crossroads again between life and death.

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@GeistInTheMachine Like how were you born to these people? 😆 Tbh I think you’re an angel or something. You didn’t cave and follow the herd over the cliff. It hurts. Courage hurts. Pain is eminent. It’s only that deep shame that keeps you in their hold. Cuz sorry they don’t deserve ya.

It’s like that with my family too. Fuck em. I’m alone. Fuck it. Science put me here on earth, let’s see what’s up 😆

I do wish you felt better. Im sorry you’re in pain and no matter what you choose, I think you’re brave for allowing your feelings. I’m not really a stranger. I’m a kindred spirit.

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