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When kids were scared but didn't know why

To those of you say 35 or younger this is nightmarish fear not understood until years later when you could comprehend what was happening.

I was 8 years old and with the rest of the class hearing sirens and told to get under our desks. One of those days this was happening.

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We were that close and didn't know it.
Nightmares were common for many of us just a few years later.
But this isn't what we knew then. We just knew the missles were there.
A couple years later we knew how close Kennedy was to the button but that sub? Not until this.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
I sometimes wonder if the kids (you and your contemporaries in the States) were more terrified of the possibilities than the two guys with their fingers metaphorically hovering over the buttons. I am in the same age bracket as you, but I think we were more sheltered from the potential 'Armageddon' by adults, even though the UK was nearer the Soviet Bloc.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK I have idea no the mental effects there. At the time for us it was actually fear of the unknown. We didn't understand what was going on until several years when we could absorb and understand the information. I didn't have a real thought process about the whole situation until I was 14 and read Seven days in May which I related parts of the story so similar to what happened when I was younger. That's when my deepest fear of nukes set in.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK I too lived through events like the Cuban Missile Crisis, but one thing we did not have in British schools were attempts to terrify children with things like those "Duck & Cover" drills the USA loved.

I have seen a film made in the 1950s for showing in American schools, both chilling and patronising at the same time, starting with dutiful flag-saluting where UK schools had lightly-religious Assemblies. Its "star" is bizarrely, a cartoon tortoise; the narration dips into in that talking-down style Hollywood thought appropriate for animal programmes aimed at children.The animal's shell, oddly shaped like a GI's helmet but an extension of his skin, would supposedly protect him from a nuclear weapon's heat and blast, just as an inflammable, wooden school desk would protect a child crouching under it....


A very revealing book on the UK's official stance and well-meaning schemes to protect the population if WW3 broke out with thermonuclear weapons, is Julie McDowell's Attack Warning Red! - How Britain Prepared For Nuclear War.

Much of it seemed little better than WRVS heroics with tea-urns, Blitz style; instructions on making domestic blast-shelters from (inflammable!) furniture; and commandeering the nation's stocks of first-aid and medical requisites from pharmacies against receipts for reimbursement after the war...... More seriously it also relied on secret regional government shelters from which rescue and recovery operations could be directed.

McDowell touches briefly on other countries' equivalents, including the USA's Duck & Cover drills that simply made very many children very frightened indeed.


For fictional but horribly credible examinations, Raymond Briggs' When The Wind Blows rather sums up in grim gentility the likelihood for immediate survivors, its only two characters an elderly couple slowly dying, we readers realise, from radiation sickness.

Two BBC TV films, The War Game and Threads were also fiction but so horrifyingly realistic the government and BBC were frightened to show them at first. Both concentrate on the aftermath of a nuclear attack; the former examining people's likely forms of behaviour. Threads centres on a young woman surviving a nuclear bomb that has destroyed Sheffield. Both woan awards.

A Hollywood equivalent gained none because it was just so obviously ridiculous, treating the effects of a nuclear attack as if little worse than a major earthquake or train crash.

We were of course too young to have seen these at the time - but Julie McDowell says she did when far too young, and it left such an impression that it inspired her book many years later.


Naturally, those of us at school in the era (1950s-60s) were aware of the threat but generally understood little or nothing of the very real dangers. The newsreaders, still respectfully calling mere politicians "Mr...." (there were far fewer "Mrs..." politicians), described deadly serious meetings and so on but it was all distant and mysterious to we youngsters. We knew all along that grown-ups - our Elders-And-Allegedly-Betters - discussed or did very strange things for no clear reasons, and were best left to it. Besides, many of them thought such matters were not for mere twleve-year-olds anyway.


With one exception, for me.

My best mate at school showed me a copy of a Civil Defence book issued I think, to his father. He should not have had the book, still less showed me. Aged only eleven then, I still recall its range-radius diagram for a multi-megatonne bomb. I forget the yield but remember the damage range could be out to thirty miles. Thinking of towns in your own part of the country, puts that in terrible perspective.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@ArishMell The real scary thing today is that range is peanuts compared to Russias largest which is upto 250 miles for the concussion wave and 620 miles for the shockwave. Just 4 of those can create a shockwave to cover the entire US. Who's anyone kidding thinking they could survive the aftermath of that.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Gibbon I think that was their "Tsar Bomba", an experimental hydrogen-fusion weapon dropped from a conventional but modified aircraft, over a test-range on Novaya Zemlya.

Despite limiting the power to "only" 50Mt (had it been built to full war specification it could have been far more powerful), and the bomb descending by parachute, the bomber was still scorched by the explosion; but at least it landed safely and the crew escaped injury.

A hydrogen-fusion bomb uses a metal "tamper" between the fission detonation that triggers the fusion, and the fusion material itself. If the tamper is of enriched uranium that too goes into explosive fission, adding to the weapon's "yield". The Tsar used an inert tamper to prevent that effect, but still had that enormous range.



Like the so-called "Squid", a US device tested at Bikini Atoll, the Tsar Bomba was not really practical as a weapon. It was more experiment and demonstration than strategic proposal.

The Squid was much more powerful than predicted, due, it was later found, by the presence of particular isotopes in its materials. It even damaged part of the monitoring system, designed to cope with the intended result. The bomb was fitted with "light pipes" to reflect the internal light as its two stages detonated, to high-speed cameras in a bunker at what should have been a safe distance; but the blast badly damaged the bunker.

Tragically, that Pacific Island test claimed more nuclear-weapon victims among the Japanese. Radioactive fall-out drifted down-wind, some landing on a fishing-boat a hundred miles away. All of the crew fell ill; one later died from cancer, another fathered a baby who was born deformed.


These very powerful bombs are physically so big and heavy they can be delivered only by large, long-range aircraft, so the two "super-powers" turned to using larger numbers of smaller bombs that can be carried by fairly compact ballistic missiles. Still deadly of course.... the two uranium-fission bombs used on Japan in WW2 had powers of well under 20kilotonnes.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ArishMell I eventually watched Threads and it was all the more chilling for being set in the city where I did my undergraduate studies and the building I worked in is prominent on the edge of the city centre. You are absolutely right that we were not frightened to death by meaningless 'drills' and paranoid descriptions.

The most visceral of the productions for me was the radio play of When the Wind Blows. Sound effects were very frightening and contrasted with the naive chatter of the protagonists played by Peter Sallis and Brenda Bruce.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK I have not seen the two films but did hear that radio production of When The Wind Blows.

The couple's naivety was very clear indeed though I did not think it just "chatter". Rather, it was their desperate attempt to comprehend and cope with their situation, and I wonder how many people really would be any better in such a situation?

Perhaps the most frightening point of the sound-effects was that the only sound from outside was the wind. No traffic, no birds, no farm animals, no voices, no church bells, no callers, nothing on the radio...

(I don't know Briggs' pictured location, and I don't think the story even hints at it; but I thought a rural village within the range of a bomb that had destroyed the nearest city.)

McDowell's book explains the American film's problem was that it showed scenes like doctors and nurses played by glamorous actors in a gleaming hospital; but the critics and film-judges were not fooled, realising the aftermath of a nuclear war would be nothing like that at all.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@ArishMell My Uncle flew a B17 spotter camera plane during the Nagasaki drop. The crew wore lead lined flight jackets and were at a long distance but still got radiation burns in their armpits. After leaving the service he became quite the bowler as a past time and developed a great hatred for firearms and and every other weapon in existence. The reality of what he saw sunk deep in him. He told me he knew that was a fire cracker compared to what was coming.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Gibbon It must have been an awful thing to have on your mind even if you had been on active service throughout the War. I wonder if many of the others involved had similar reactions to your Uncle's.
Gibbon · 70-79, M
@ArishMell I think many involved in those operations had psychological issues as a result. I know there are many pilots who have had issues envisioning the hell they rained down on their targets unseen only imagined in their minds.