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If you apply for a permit to gather and march, it’s not a protest.
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ElwoodBlues · M
I disagree. you're getting an opportunity to speak your piece and show how large your numbers are. You're just doing it in a manner that doesn't cause too much inconvenience to others and doesn't endanger anyone.
SW-User
@ElwoodBlues funny words, inconvenience and endanger.
ElwoodBlues · M
@SW-User You have the right to speak; others have the right to go on about their lives. Protest permits are a way to respect both those rights and balance they ways they might come into conflict.
SW-User
@ElwoodBlues oh , ok
Gloomy · F
@ElwoodBlues It is useless to get citizens on my side on solutions that need to be and can only be enforced by corporations or the government.
If people are disrupted they are confronted with the cause and can make up their own mind.
Climate change protests grow increasingly radical due to permitted and less "radical" protests having been ignored.
If people are disrupted they are confronted with the cause and can make up their own mind.
Climate change protests grow increasingly radical due to permitted and less "radical" protests having been ignored.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Gloomy [quote]Climate change protests grow increasingly radical[/quote] Good example. Do you know of a [i]single[/i] mind that has been changed in favor reducing CO2 due to defacing of classic art? I'm a total supporter of halting AGW, and those "art attack" protests are the worst possible way to get the message across.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Gloomy Currently the biggest issue has little to do with changing minds and almost everything to do with transmission line infrastructure and the permitting process.
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[quote] [big]Wind and solar power generators wait in yearslong lines to put clean electricity on the grid, then face huge interconnection fees they can’t afford[/big]
[b]Waiting in line [/b]
The entire electric grid in the U.S. has installed capacity of 1,250 gigawatts. There are currently 2,020 gigawatts of capacity in the interconnection queue lines around the country, according to a report published Thursday by the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. That includes 1,350 gigawatts of power capacity, mostly clean, looking to be constructed and connected to the grid. The rest, 670 gigawatts, is for storage.
Berkeley Lab pulls interconnection queue data from all of the regional planning territories in the United States and from between 35 and 40 utilities that are not covered by areas with regional planning authorities. The data covers between 85% and 90% of the electricity load in the United States, Joseph Rand, an energy policy researcher and the lead author of the study, told CNBC. [/quote]
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/06/outdated-us-energy-grid-tons-of-clean-energy-stuck-waiting-in-line.html
Truly eye-opening
[quote] [big]Wind and solar power generators wait in yearslong lines to put clean electricity on the grid, then face huge interconnection fees they can’t afford[/big]
[b]Waiting in line [/b]
The entire electric grid in the U.S. has installed capacity of 1,250 gigawatts. There are currently 2,020 gigawatts of capacity in the interconnection queue lines around the country, according to a report published Thursday by the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. That includes 1,350 gigawatts of power capacity, mostly clean, looking to be constructed and connected to the grid. The rest, 670 gigawatts, is for storage.
Berkeley Lab pulls interconnection queue data from all of the regional planning territories in the United States and from between 35 and 40 utilities that are not covered by areas with regional planning authorities. The data covers between 85% and 90% of the electricity load in the United States, Joseph Rand, an energy policy researcher and the lead author of the study, told CNBC. [/quote]
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/06/outdated-us-energy-grid-tons-of-clean-energy-stuck-waiting-in-line.html
Truly eye-opening