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Bit Late In Writing This...

...but, I was furious with the UK government (noticed the little 'g' there...) and their recent budget talk about investing in nuclear power...and then having the balls to call it 'renewable energy' !

I mean....It isn't...and they know it!

Very angry about that. I did the marches, back in the early 80's, against nuclear power. My mind's not changed about it since then.

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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
There are pros and cons to nuclear power. If you look at the statistics, it has been safer than any other fuel source. The errors made were costly, but not anywhere as frequent or devastating as that from coal, oil and wood. The problem of security and what to do with the spent fuel are serious concerns. It certainly is not a renewable source, you are absolutely correct. The need for investment in wind, solar, geothermal, etc., is great. The report in the news today is very concerning. The report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change reveals that there has been a flattening out of release of greenhouse gases, and that is good, but reveals also that a more dramatic decrease in release will be necessary if the earth is to avoid the climate catastrophes that will result from climate change.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SammyJo I am not disagreeing, but, if you read SW and other blogs, the way that I do, there is so much hatred in this world, part of it is manifest as attacks on those of us who believe we are far beyond the need to accept Climate Change as a reality, we need to work much harder to affect it. Watching the politics in the US, the far right have become an incredibly powerful minority to deal with, they wage a war of worlds shouting crazy theories and spouting lies about the changes in the climate. If the US citizens don't wake up and vote these idiots out of office, we will continue to go down the slippery road that will drastically change the environment my grandchildren will live in. There are so many places we will have to act in, I feel frustrated at best.
SammyJo · 51-55, F
@samueltyler2 The Far Right are....twats!

I thank you! *Bows*

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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SammyJo you are welcome, why the Stevie Nicks profile image?
Northwest · M
They don't call it renewable energy. They call it zero carbon emissions energy, and they would be right.

The technology used today, is not the same they used in the 1970s, while they were building the plants you were protesting.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@ninalanyon covering of rain-absorbing surfaces with whatever, concrete or macadam, is very dangerous to the future of drinkable water, flooding, etc.
Northwest · M
@ninalanyon
a large amount of concrete is used

Yeah, but less so than dams.
Northwest · M
@SammyJo
Hun, as an American I'm sorry but you didn't our budget speech here in the UK

I think you're trying that as an American, I did not watch your budget speech in the UK. As a matter of fact, I was in the UK when the speech was given, but they also have a thing called YouTube and the Guardian online.

[media=https://youtu.be/VICoMP9_gBs]

Hunt called it net zero energy.

and, I really don't care how safe it is now...it still isn't.

You're stating an opinion, but fact is that it is safer than the onslaught on the planet by fossil fuels. The proposed UK plan, BTW, is a joint cooperation with France.
MarsRedSky · 26-30, M
It was a budget for the rich unfortunately. Income tax rate is still frozen, so for most people that means paying more. A pension tax break for the 1% though…
SammyJo · 51-55, F
@MarsRedSky It was, also to go the tried and trusted/easier route of getting energy instead of what the fallout from the Ukraine/Russia conflict has been.

Tories always look after their own...sadly.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
I'd be surprised if they really made such a gaffe, but unfortunately we will never have enough electricity from wind, water and sun alone.

More to the point though is something singularly lacking from all the debates on "energy" - apart from my wondering if most politicians and campaigners even known Energy from Power, let alone have any basic science and engineering knowledge at all.. That missing point is not fuels. It is Materials.

No more petroleum and coal by choice or depletion, fast-dwindling sources of metals although most metals are salvageable at cost of a lot of electricity and some attrition.... then what do we do? We can't run the world just on electricity, even if it always possible to generate enough anyway, by any means.

No more materials, and no more electricity-generating equipment, certainly not as presently designed.

Don't tell the Just-stop-oil goons though. They would not understand it.
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
You are right but it is not the lesser of two evils when compared to burning fossil fuels.
We can probably switch to cleaner true renewable energy in the long term but we need to reduce carbon emissions more urgently.
SammyJo · 51-55, F
@MrAverage1965 Fossil fuels were all the thing, back in the day (you're of a similar dynasty as me! Lol!) if you can remember and we had quite the high levels deep underground. People we're quite as clued in as they are these days...sure...I get it.

Bad for CO2 levels and the burning of the ozone levels, of course....which takes a long time to get anywhere near to what it once was (I think I saw some results of the reverse levels from 1970 until 2020, which was quite a long time, of course!), and nuclear waste, nobody wants it (how understandable is that?!? Wow...what a shock!) and you bury it you can't use that land for 100+ years...

Renewable energy, for me, is wind, sun and water....we have plenty of the former and the latter - not much of the middle - since we're an island, we should be able to sort that.

Nuclear really is not the answer...

SJD xx
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@SammyJo I argued with others in the 1960s about the overuse of oil. At that time, I was not savvy as to the climate effects, but, my point was then, that oil is not an infinite resource. The availability of shale oil, etc., has made the quantity of oil appear better, but it is still limited. The oil companies have managed to keep making money hand over fist, at the expense of both the consumer and the environment.
SammyJo · 51-55, F
@samueltyler2 Yes, not finite resources so not finite abilities to make energy.
originnone · 61-69, M
No, they said it's environmentally sustainable, which is an unarguable fact. You can be against it all you want, but what you said isn't true....
I'd say nuclear power has only gotten marginally safer since the 80s. But, what we've learned since then about fossil fuels and global warming changes the calculus. I now think that we need every method possible to wean ourselves off fossil fuels. Yes, there are risks storing nuclear fuel into the far future. but the present risks of fossil fuels outweigh them.
Rhode57 · 56-60, M
Whole heartly agree with you their a joke .
CassandraSissy · 26-30, TVIP
Well said, sweetie! Feel pretty much the same. I heard what Mr Hunt said and my jaw hit the proverbial floor. Shocking!

 
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