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samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@samueltyler2 Hmm.. Thats sort of how the bible got started..One persons version of current events, complete with opinions.😷 Are you sure about this?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Historians widely agree that the Torah was composed by three or four authors: the Elohists, the Yahwists, the Deuteronomists, and the Kohanim (priests).https://www.rootsmetals.com/blogs/news/when-how-why-the-torah-was-written
@whowasthatmaskedman about what? Actually there is strong evidence that the first five books of what we call The Bible were written by three distinct groups of people, most likely men.
AI Overview
Traditionally, there is no single, universally agreed-upon answer as to who wrote the Bible, as it's a collection of many books written over centuries by various individuals and groups.
However, some sources mention three major groupings often involved in discussions about the composition of the Bible:
The Israelites/Hebrews/Jewish People: Much of the Old Testament was written by or addressed to the Israelites, detailing their history, laws, and prophetic messages.
The Church: This refers to the early community of believers in Jesus Christ (made up of both Jews and Gentiles) who relied on the inspired messages of the apostles for guidance. The New Testament was largely written for their benefit.
Gentiles: Non-Jewish individuals who were influenced by or interacted with the Jewish people are also mentioned in the Bible, and some were receptive to the message of the Lord.
It is important to understand that:
Diverse authorship: The Bible is composed of writings from a variety of authors, including kings, shepherds, prophets, and apostles.
Time span: These writings were produced over many centuries, according to Bible Gateway starting around 1400 BC and ending around 400 BC for the Old Testament, and between 45 and 85 AD for the New Testament.
Inspiration: While human authors penned the words, Christians generally believe the Bible is inspired by God, meaning He guided and enabled them to write what He wanted to be conveyed.
Regarding the Old Testament:
Traditional Authors: Traditionally, Moses is credited with writing the first five books (the Torah or Pentateuch), with Ezra editing it. Other authors attributed include David for most Psalms and Solomon for Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.
Scholarly Views: Modern scholarship often employs the Documentary Hypothesis (JEDP theory), suggesting the Pentateuch was compiled from four different sources (Jahwist, Elohist, Deuteronomist, and Priestly) over several centuries. This theory, though debated in detail, suggests a more complex process of composition than single authorship.
Regarding the New Testament:
Traditional Authors: The four Gospels are attributed to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, though scholars widely believe these are anonymous works written by unknown Christians rather than the disciples themselves. The author of Luke is also believed to have written Acts.
Pauline Epistles: Paul is traditionally credited with writing thirteen epistles, though the authorship of some is debated among scholars, with only seven widely accepted as authentically Pauline.
General Epistles and Revelation: The authorship of the General Epistles and Revelation is also a subject of scholarly debate, with most considering them anonymous or pseudonymous.
In summary, while the Bible encompasses diverse authors and historical periods, the concept of three main groups (Israelites, Church, Gentiles) can help categorize the intended audience and context of its writings. However, understanding the nuances of authorship, inspiration, and different scholarly perspectives is crucial for a complete understanding of the Bible's origin and composition.
@whowasthatmaskedman about what? Actually there is strong evidence that the first five books of what we call The Bible were written by three distinct groups of people, most likely men.
AI Overview
Traditionally, there is no single, universally agreed-upon answer as to who wrote the Bible, as it's a collection of many books written over centuries by various individuals and groups.
However, some sources mention three major groupings often involved in discussions about the composition of the Bible:
The Israelites/Hebrews/Jewish People: Much of the Old Testament was written by or addressed to the Israelites, detailing their history, laws, and prophetic messages.
The Church: This refers to the early community of believers in Jesus Christ (made up of both Jews and Gentiles) who relied on the inspired messages of the apostles for guidance. The New Testament was largely written for their benefit.
Gentiles: Non-Jewish individuals who were influenced by or interacted with the Jewish people are also mentioned in the Bible, and some were receptive to the message of the Lord.
It is important to understand that:
Diverse authorship: The Bible is composed of writings from a variety of authors, including kings, shepherds, prophets, and apostles.
Time span: These writings were produced over many centuries, according to Bible Gateway starting around 1400 BC and ending around 400 BC for the Old Testament, and between 45 and 85 AD for the New Testament.
Inspiration: While human authors penned the words, Christians generally believe the Bible is inspired by God, meaning He guided and enabled them to write what He wanted to be conveyed.
Regarding the Old Testament:
Traditional Authors: Traditionally, Moses is credited with writing the first five books (the Torah or Pentateuch), with Ezra editing it. Other authors attributed include David for most Psalms and Solomon for Proverbs and Ecclesiastes.
Scholarly Views: Modern scholarship often employs the Documentary Hypothesis (JEDP theory), suggesting the Pentateuch was compiled from four different sources (Jahwist, Elohist, Deuteronomist, and Priestly) over several centuries. This theory, though debated in detail, suggests a more complex process of composition than single authorship.
Regarding the New Testament:
Traditional Authors: The four Gospels are attributed to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, though scholars widely believe these are anonymous works written by unknown Christians rather than the disciples themselves. The author of Luke is also believed to have written Acts.
Pauline Epistles: Paul is traditionally credited with writing thirteen epistles, though the authorship of some is debated among scholars, with only seven widely accepted as authentically Pauline.
General Epistles and Revelation: The authorship of the General Epistles and Revelation is also a subject of scholarly debate, with most considering them anonymous or pseudonymous.
In summary, while the Bible encompasses diverse authors and historical periods, the concept of three main groups (Israelites, Church, Gentiles) can help categorize the intended audience and context of its writings. However, understanding the nuances of authorship, inspiration, and different scholarly perspectives is crucial for a complete understanding of the Bible's origin and composition.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@samueltyler2 I dont dispute a word of what you have said. My point was to compare artifacts like the Dead sea scrolls and indeed all the other source material you mentioned to a form of time capsule. It only has any kind of "Truth" if you accept the context. If history had gone another way and the more advanced Hindu civilisation had spread north west through the fertile crescent, all these writings would be considered historically interesting nonsense..😷
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@whowasthatmaskedman I see. Yes there are other cultures besides Judeo-Christian with their own stories, including creation.