It stole the slaves from Africa, turned the prairie to dust, moved whites out of Europe for the owners, nuked Hiroshima, burned Malibu - ?

And now it's crumbling from within!
What's next after the USA project?

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

Interesting question...

First though the USA did not "move whites out of Europe".

What became the USA and modern Southern American nations were created long before by adventurers and colonists from several European countries who moved themselves and took over the land - and never mind the residents.

They did so for various reasons though: escaping poverty or religious persecution, for republican desires or "new life" wishes, to exploit the place commercially (helped by the slave trade). Initially some, particularly including the Spanish and British, took the territories as extensions to their native countries - the desire to create new nations themselves came later.

If though, the USA is crumbling as you suggest, it's anyone guess what it will become.

I don't think it will collapse but it might change significantly. Any secessionist feelings among its regions might raise their heads but I don't see them being popular, let alone succeeding. I think it will stay the USA but become diminished.

Much more likely, in my view, is that the People's Republic of China will overtake from the second to the world's most powerful nation; her aim, helped by a strategic advantage the United States of America and all the other "Western" nations lack by nature.

The PCR is a single-party dictatorship run by people who are effectively caretakers for the time being of a continuum designed for self-preservation in a very rigid way. Though all stable governments are caretakers of their own nations, the Chinese system does not need worry about the effect of frequent multi-party elections, so can plan years, possibly decades, ahead. Its government is very ruthless and cruel, brooking no dissent or individual liberty, but is also clever, well-organised, calculating and patient.

So if now more apple-crumble than apple-pie, the United States of America would still be that but far less significant in world affairs.

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

@ArishMell true, a coalition of elites and the USA removed the whites! It's not a problem for you so you found a reason to not care! Whatever. And the whole white bunch agreed to lie about everything so, yup! All good cuz you can do more ethnic cleansing, right?

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@Roundandroundwego I have no idea what you mean by the USA "removed the whites", and that I do not care. Do you? Anyway, "removed" from where to where?

If you are indigneous then I can understand your bitterness, but your allegation is complete rhubarb.

The people the settlers of what later became Canada and the USA "removed" anywhere were the continent's true residents, and the Africans taken across the Atlantic as slaves. If you mean that, then of course I agree it was totally wrong.

You don't say that though. You claim the USA and some unknown "coalition" evicted the "whites" from somewhere. Which is tosh!

Neither Canada and the USA even existed until quite a long time after the colonists started arriving on the land they imagined Europeans had "discovered". They claimed the lands for their empires but later chose to create their own, new nations..

Although there were a lot of those settlers, and later waves of emigrants from European nations including the Irish escaping famine and Jews escaping Hitler, they still numbered small fractions of their home nation's populations.

Europe as whole, many nations from Portugal to Finland, Greece to Greenland, is still predominently "white" as I think you hope, and so is the USA. No-one has been doing any ethnic cleansing against white people!.

Anyway why would it be good I can do more ethnic cleansing as you pretend I can? (I can't and wouldn't, of course.)

At least my country was the first to realise it had been totally immoral to trade slaves, and so abolished the trade. It makes "modern slavery" a very serious criminal offence.