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Deserthiker · 61-69, M
Excellent!!!
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
@Deserthiker Hitler wished he could lead a fascist country. He could not. There was too much money to be made for his cronies during the war. Slave labor pays off. So they were socialist
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Deserthiker Slave labor isn't "socialist". Things like national health were socialist in Nazi Germany, but generally it was simply a totalitarian dictatorship based on a cult of personality and extreme Nationalism and racism. Funny how, no matter what they call their type of government -- Nazi, Fascist, Communist, etc., it usually just boils down to totalitarianism, repression, and the leaders getting rich.
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
@ChipmunkErnie All symptoms of socialism. Slave labor, totalitarian dictatorship, mass killings. Corruption and delusions of world domination.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Deserthiker If it "paid off" and getting rich was behind Hitler's actions, wouldn't that make him a Capitalist?
Or will you just keep making up your own definition of "socialism" because you think it's fashionable to call anything you disapprove of "socialist"?
Or will you just keep making up your own definition of "socialism" because you think it's fashionable to call anything you disapprove of "socialist"?
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
@ChipmunkErnie He and his cronies were getting rich off their socialist agenda. Typical corruption of the elite. Same old dusty socialist handbook
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
@ChipmunkErnie I don’t call every thing I disapprove of socialist. Where did I do that?? Point it out?
You made an assumption. A wrong one. I call socialists socialists. Nazis were socialists in actions and name. So were the soviets.
So where did I do what you said I did?? Show me.
You made an assumption. A wrong one. I call socialists socialists. Nazis were socialists in actions and name. So were the soviets.
So where did I do what you said I did?? Show me.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Deserthiker Just look back at what you wrote. I already pointed things out, you just go rambling on about "socialists" whether the term applies to a certain policy or not. And the Nazis were fascists in some ways, had a few socialist policies, and you yourself cited their aim of accumulating money, so they might be capitalists, too. Their nationalism, racism, and expansionism come from Fascism.
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
@ChipmunkErnie The Nazis were not fascist. They were socialists, nationalists and supremacists. Their economic system was socialism.
Tell me where I did what you said I did.
Tell me where I did what you said I did.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@Deserthiker Go argue with Britanica, I give up... "fascism , Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state’s authority, and harsh suppression of dissent. Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged. Fascism arose during the 1920s and ’30s partly out of fear of the rising power of the working classes; it differed from contemporary communism (as practiced under Joseph Stalin) by its protection of business and landowning elites and its preservation of class systems. The leaders of the fascist governments of Italy (1922–43), Germany (1933–45), and Spain (1939–75)—Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, and Francisco Franco—were portrayed to their publics as embodiments of the strength and resolve necessary to rescue their nations from political and economic chaos. Japanese fascists (1936–45) fostered belief in the uniqueness of the Japanese spirit and taught subordination to the state and personal sacrifice."
Deserthiker · 61-69, M
@ChipmunkErnie Hitler was almost there but he was a socialist who wanted to be a fascist. This is why he admired Mussoliniso much.
To make NAZI Germany fascist he would have had to completely take control of the government and all industry. He could not do that. There is no way he was going to nationalize Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen,Merck, Audi, Lufthansa, Hugo Boss, etc……
With slave labor there was way too much money to be made before and during the war. Greed and corruption. He did the next best thing, talked a big talk about the pure race(which oddly included Muslim Palestinians when it’s convenient , you ignore racialism)past glories, the 1000 year reich and everything else to distract and brainwash.
However, his economy was a socialist economy.
I’d say hitler was not a true fascist and had lots of socialist in him.
He sure murdered like a socialist
To make NAZI Germany fascist he would have had to completely take control of the government and all industry. He could not do that. There is no way he was going to nationalize Mercedes Benz, Volkswagen,Merck, Audi, Lufthansa, Hugo Boss, etc……
With slave labor there was way too much money to be made before and during the war. Greed and corruption. He did the next best thing, talked a big talk about the pure race(which oddly included Muslim Palestinians when it’s convenient , you ignore racialism)past glories, the 1000 year reich and everything else to distract and brainwash.
However, his economy was a socialist economy.
I’d say hitler was not a true fascist and had lots of socialist in him.
He sure murdered like a socialist