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SandWitch · 26-30, F
Richard Nixon, because he was totally okay with leaving Americans to rot in Vietnam for years as the USA continued to make money from the south Vietnamese government to defend their country from the north Vietnamese army. Richard Nixon was an evil person, no different than Donald Trump is an evil person, neither of whom have a conscience.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@SandWitch did you just say the US made money from .vn?
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP
Yes, of course I did.
Yes, of course I did.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@SandWitch well that turns my understanding of the war on its head. I thought the US hemorrhaged huge amounts of cash on that white elephant.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@ImperialAerosolKidFromEP
Oh the USA did hemorrhage huge amounts of cash! But they were getting paid even bigger amounts of cash by the south Vietnamese government to come over there in the first place in 1958, while acting under the guise of stopping the spread of communism. The exact same financial transaction happened in the Middle East from 1990 onward and the same thing is happening today in Saudi Arabia where US troops are permanently stationed there (for a price) to defend the Saudi government from their own people.
Oh the USA did hemorrhage huge amounts of cash! But they were getting paid even bigger amounts of cash by the south Vietnamese government to come over there in the first place in 1958, while acting under the guise of stopping the spread of communism. The exact same financial transaction happened in the Middle East from 1990 onward and the same thing is happening today in Saudi Arabia where US troops are permanently stationed there (for a price) to defend the Saudi government from their own people.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@Patriot96
You don't know anything about the Vietnam war, despite using a picture of a US Serviceman cloaked with an American flag in your username photo to pretend that you're part of that club of true patriots. Anyone who knows their war history is a true patriot. You on the other hand are a total fraud.
Eisenhower dragged the USA into the Vietnam war in 1957, which was 2 years after the war had started between north and south Vietnam. Eisenhower got the US involved strictly for America's financial gain in the matter because the US military was and still is a 'gun for hire'.
The US military was hired by the south Vietnamese government to come over with American resources to stop the advancement of the north Vietnamese into south Vietnam.
Eisenhower did not drag the US into that war to stop the spread of communism which was how he lied to the American people, yet Americans were ultimately sold on the idea that it was a good idea to go to war against north Vietnam which was purely a propaganda-play that Eisenhower used against Americans to get them to come onside with his financial scheme. This is no different than how George W. Bush conned the American people into believing that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction hidden in the desert, which then gave Bush the green light to invade Iraq when Americans believed his BS.
The US government would not allow any other Nation to come over to Vietnam and join in the fight because this was America's war and would ultimately be America's financial gain at the end of the day as well, which the US had no intention of sharing with any other Nation.
Who ended up working alongside the US military were paid mercenaries from other countries who were paid by the US government to covertly assist them in the fight. This was why the draft was imposed in the USA during the Vietnam war, because of a distinct lack of enlisted American troops.
Over 60% of all American soldiers who went over to Vietnam were draftees who did not want to be there, but were forced to be there by the US government. That is why the US paid thousands of mercenaries to join in the fight because Americans were no longer enlisting in the US military because they didn't trust the US government considering the US was losing badly to the north Vietnamese army. That is also why draft-dodgers fled the USA during the Vietnam war because they did not trust their government and would not be a part of that action.
Kennedy then took over and continued that war after Eisenhower because of the money that was still being made by the US for their involvement in Vietnam.
Johnson then took over and continued that war with a the same concept of financial gain in mind that his previous Presidential predecessors were using because supplying an endless supply of American troops and hardware was very lucrative for the USA.
Nixon then took over from Johnson and continued that war until the anti-Vietnam war movement in the USA went beyond Nixon's control and he realized that the US government could no longer fool the American people of why the US was still involved in Vietnam.
America's involvement with Vietnam was not about stopping the spread of communism, it was about the vast sums of financial gain the US government was getting from supplying troops and other resources to that war effort which has continued to this day in other parts of the world involving the US military.
Nixon then began to withdraw troops from Vietnam when his popularity began to slide, but he did this only near the end of his term because he thought the troop withdrawal would boost his low popularity among Americans. But Nixon failed to gain popularity despite the initial withdrawal because of his Watergate scandal.
Nixon's last ditch attempt to withdraw all troops from Vietnam to save his own political ass resulted in America's embarrassing retreat from Vietnam, but Nixon still got Impeached because of Watergate nonetheless. President Ford then took over by default for the remainder of Nixon's term in Office.
For you to suggest that Vietnam was "Johnson's war" really points to how disconnected you really are from your own country's war history.
I would strongly suggest that you remove your username photo of a US Serviceman draped with an American flag because you are a disgrace to your country, Patriot96.
You don't know anything about the Vietnam war, despite using a picture of a US Serviceman cloaked with an American flag in your username photo to pretend that you're part of that club of true patriots. Anyone who knows their war history is a true patriot. You on the other hand are a total fraud.
Eisenhower dragged the USA into the Vietnam war in 1957, which was 2 years after the war had started between north and south Vietnam. Eisenhower got the US involved strictly for America's financial gain in the matter because the US military was and still is a 'gun for hire'.
The US military was hired by the south Vietnamese government to come over with American resources to stop the advancement of the north Vietnamese into south Vietnam.
Eisenhower did not drag the US into that war to stop the spread of communism which was how he lied to the American people, yet Americans were ultimately sold on the idea that it was a good idea to go to war against north Vietnam which was purely a propaganda-play that Eisenhower used against Americans to get them to come onside with his financial scheme. This is no different than how George W. Bush conned the American people into believing that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction hidden in the desert, which then gave Bush the green light to invade Iraq when Americans believed his BS.
The US government would not allow any other Nation to come over to Vietnam and join in the fight because this was America's war and would ultimately be America's financial gain at the end of the day as well, which the US had no intention of sharing with any other Nation.
Who ended up working alongside the US military were paid mercenaries from other countries who were paid by the US government to covertly assist them in the fight. This was why the draft was imposed in the USA during the Vietnam war, because of a distinct lack of enlisted American troops.
Over 60% of all American soldiers who went over to Vietnam were draftees who did not want to be there, but were forced to be there by the US government. That is why the US paid thousands of mercenaries to join in the fight because Americans were no longer enlisting in the US military because they didn't trust the US government considering the US was losing badly to the north Vietnamese army. That is also why draft-dodgers fled the USA during the Vietnam war because they did not trust their government and would not be a part of that action.
Kennedy then took over and continued that war after Eisenhower because of the money that was still being made by the US for their involvement in Vietnam.
Johnson then took over and continued that war with a the same concept of financial gain in mind that his previous Presidential predecessors were using because supplying an endless supply of American troops and hardware was very lucrative for the USA.
Nixon then took over from Johnson and continued that war until the anti-Vietnam war movement in the USA went beyond Nixon's control and he realized that the US government could no longer fool the American people of why the US was still involved in Vietnam.
America's involvement with Vietnam was not about stopping the spread of communism, it was about the vast sums of financial gain the US government was getting from supplying troops and other resources to that war effort which has continued to this day in other parts of the world involving the US military.
Nixon then began to withdraw troops from Vietnam when his popularity began to slide, but he did this only near the end of his term because he thought the troop withdrawal would boost his low popularity among Americans. But Nixon failed to gain popularity despite the initial withdrawal because of his Watergate scandal.
Nixon's last ditch attempt to withdraw all troops from Vietnam to save his own political ass resulted in America's embarrassing retreat from Vietnam, but Nixon still got Impeached because of Watergate nonetheless. President Ford then took over by default for the remainder of Nixon's term in Office.
For you to suggest that Vietnam was "Johnson's war" really points to how disconnected you really are from your own country's war history.
I would strongly suggest that you remove your username photo of a US Serviceman draped with an American flag because you are a disgrace to your country, Patriot96.