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Freeranger · M
Forget? After the Rape of Nanking in which it's men, women, and children were killed by the sword and bayonet to similar numbers you mean? Talk about an elephant in a room.
It always leaves me incredulous that, that atrocity by Japanese forces is purposely disregarded whenever people quote the bomb.
Competitions by Japanese officers who conducted sword beheading races to see who could decapitate the most.....babies tossed in the air and impaled on bayonets.....brutal rape and execution to the tune of 300,000. I fail to see how the bomb was more outrageous.
Man's inhumanity to man.
One was committed to impose it's cruel will and subsequent submission to flex it's superiority and the other to stop what would have been thousands upon thousands of more American and Allied dead as. the Japanese were not going to surrender.
NO ONE who was not living in that time period can possibly comprehend how devastating WWII was for the Allies, to say nothing of the evil of Nazi Germany as an Axis ally to Japan. How easy it is to sit in the armchair in judgement so far removed.
How MORE sad that, a small attempt at humor gets turned on it's head. The sun sets on another typical evening on SW.....😒
It always leaves me incredulous that, that atrocity by Japanese forces is purposely disregarded whenever people quote the bomb.
Competitions by Japanese officers who conducted sword beheading races to see who could decapitate the most.....babies tossed in the air and impaled on bayonets.....brutal rape and execution to the tune of 300,000. I fail to see how the bomb was more outrageous.
Man's inhumanity to man.
One was committed to impose it's cruel will and subsequent submission to flex it's superiority and the other to stop what would have been thousands upon thousands of more American and Allied dead as. the Japanese were not going to surrender.
NO ONE who was not living in that time period can possibly comprehend how devastating WWII was for the Allies, to say nothing of the evil of Nazi Germany as an Axis ally to Japan. How easy it is to sit in the armchair in judgement so far removed.
How MORE sad that, a small attempt at humor gets turned on it's head. The sun sets on another typical evening on SW.....😒
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Freeranger · M
@ProfessorPlum77 For me, I think the best book I ever read on Japan and the 5-w's was written by Edwin Hoyt. Have you read him? His book, "Japan's War; The Great Pacific Conflict" is, I think, a must read for anyone seeking better insight inside the Japanese mind pre-attack. It was eye opening. I'd had no idea of the turmoil existing between the Emperor, The Japanese Imperial Navy and it's Army who, were complete disciples of the bushido code. Great, great read.
Of course, I think the statement surprise attack, is a bit of a misnomer. Roosevelt knew that, at some point they were going to be attacked, but they didn't know just where. Their assumption was the Dutch East Indies, as they assumed in moving the U.S. Fleet from California to Hawaii. that move was going to act as a deterrent.
How wrong they were.
Of course, I think the statement surprise attack, is a bit of a misnomer. Roosevelt knew that, at some point they were going to be attacked, but they didn't know just where. Their assumption was the Dutch East Indies, as they assumed in moving the U.S. Fleet from California to Hawaii. that move was going to act as a deterrent.
How wrong they were.
ProfessorPlum77 · 70-79, MVIP
@Freeranger I don't think I have read Hoyt's book. I will have to check into that.
I did read a book some years ago about how much opposition the Emperor received when he decided it would be best for Japan to surrender.
I did read a book some years ago about how much opposition the Emperor received when he decided it would be best for Japan to surrender.
Freeranger · M
@ProfessorPlum77 True....
There were decided differences between Japan's army and navy. The army was all about the bushido code.....fight to the last man. Not so much with it's navy.
What blew me away was the hidden turmoil where literal political assassinations to further power building, even planned attempts on the Emperor's life were part of this larger turmoil. Hoyt's book is a gigantic eyeopener for the interested historian. SO well written. I recommend it highly to anyone with an interest.
There were decided differences between Japan's army and navy. The army was all about the bushido code.....fight to the last man. Not so much with it's navy.
What blew me away was the hidden turmoil where literal political assassinations to further power building, even planned attempts on the Emperor's life were part of this larger turmoil. Hoyt's book is a gigantic eyeopener for the interested historian. SO well written. I recommend it highly to anyone with an interest.
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