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Is Trumpism the modern equivalent of McCarthyism?

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One was scapegoating suspected Communists. The other is about “He hates who we hate”.
Aliveshock Best Comment
i equivocate trump with Benedict Arnold.

Dino11 · M
Too much hate, we need much less Trump, much more President Biden.
Ynotisay · M
@Dino11 Agreed. You'd think that outside of everything else people would recognize that he's a good man. Inherently sympathetic. Decent. That's what's needed right now.
Unfortunately, I think decency is now seen as a weakness in the eyes of many. It used to drive the train. No more.
That’s exactly what it is. Same cast of characters basically. They hate "leftists", although they have no idea who is what, or what any of it means.

I had family members who fought against fascism, yet returned home to live under laws similar to those imposed on the people they were fighting for. And in those days, to protest against legal racial segregation was to invite the accusation of "Communist leanings".

Today being "woke" (not racist) is considered being part of Antifa. Because apparently being "against fascism" now is a bad thing.
@bijouxbroussard the “Good ole days” for some are the “Bad ole days” for others.

Here’s a side note. My father was a B24 pilot in WWII. He was protected by the Tuskegee Airman. He would talk about them with glowing praise. They saved his ass countless times. It was his first exposure to black people. And I think it influenced a lifetime of liberal thought. Even though he inexplicably liked Reagan. Lol
McCarthyism and Trumpism both paint all of their enemies as being part of one evil movement, but every right-wing movement does that. I think what happened back then and what's happening now is just right-wing politics.
@pianoplayingsteve
people like to speak ‘generally’ because then they can discuss issues whilst feeling completely reasonable in stereotyping everyone they disagree with, because it’s not stereotyping, it’s ‘generalising’.

If I'm talking to someone who identifies as Conservative, I'm not going to assume they believe in some form of the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.
However, it is objectively true that MOST right-leaning people do believe in that conspiracy theory. I'm not going to pretend that certain trends are not more common to certain ideologies. I think doing so is to ignore the reality of ideology and the real world implications.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
‘If I'm talking to someone who identifies as Conservative, I'm not going to assume they believe in some form of the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory.’

An hour ago you told me this:

‘ Conservatives believe that every thing they hate, no matter how seemingly unrelated, is part of a greater narrative being pushed by Marxists or Satanists’

I also disagree with your usage of the term ‘conspiracy theory’ ,many on the left of whom use that term to dismiss any group of ideas or facts that go against whatever narrative is convenient to them that day. In a manner no less reductionist, ignorant and dishonest as those who dismiss anything that challenge their views as ‘satanic’.

The Institue for Social Research set up in Frankfurt Germany during Weimar aka ‘the Frankfurt School’ was an actual thing. It was set up by Carl Grunberg, who happened to be Jewish, who then passed its ownership onto Mark Horkheimer when he retired, who also happened to be Jewish. Horkheimer went on to hire professors who were overwhelmingly Jewish. The school taught a field called ‘critical theory’ - which was influenced heavily by Hegel and Kant - that aimed to further develop on these 19th century Marxist ideas and because these philosophies were heavily ‘anti positivist’ the German population at large saw the ideology as divisive.’

Because the majority of the membership was Jewish, when Hitler came into power the institute closed down. Many of the professors emigrated to the US, in which some research boards in California were open to their ideas and gave them a platform. Their institutes teach what are known as critical race theory and critical gender theory, which as explained in the previous paragraphs, were formed from Hegelian and Kantistic marxism. That’s just historic fact and I’m more than happy to source my claims.

Now, with how the media represents the idea of ‘conspiracy theorists’ we’ve been conditioned to believe that any researching into a topic past sharing sensationalist headlines that support one’s political bias is some sort of nut job past time. And with the fact that it’s becoming a word used to dismiss any evidence that goes against whatever narrative said person holds, a lot of people are happy to push for this stereotype. It also happened to become a household dismissive term in the age of the internet where your average lay person can have their voice amplified, people more interested in saying things for social media likes from their political tribe than because of what is actually true. Them using the term ‘conspiracy theorist’ dismissively allows them to think there is some sort of virtue in being ignorant. Before all this, we used to call looking into things ‘thinking critically’


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Ynotisay · M
I think there's an absolute connection. But it's not limited to McCarthyism. It's been the tool of authoritarians throughout history. You create an enemy, typically an easy target, blow their import out of proportion and then use fear to promote a unified response. You can never underestimate the power of "Us vs. Them."
@Ynotisay Trumps mentor was Roy Cohn who was McCarthy’s cohort.
Ynotisay · M
@JonLosAngeles66 You're right. Let's see if his demise is in line with Cohn's. Debilitated from a disease he denied, broke, and with enemies exacting revenge. Couldn't happen to a better couple of guys.
scrood · 31-35
No Pelosi and the incessant witch hunt against "insurectionist" goblins and "ultra-FACIST" MAGA buffoons Jan 6. Jan 6. Jan 6. Jan 6. Jan 6. Jan 6. Jan 6. Jan 6. Jan 6. are the ones who actually make millions with REAL COMMUNIST CHINESE OVERLORDS who fund their vote stealing campaigns in Silicon Valley and every major US city.

Senator McCarthy was absolutely right and an American hero -- Chicomms own Joe Biden and his crime family
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
There’s no meeting of the minds here. @pianoplayingsteve
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Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
At least McCarthy didn’t conspire with the enemy.
MethDozer · M
They're not the same thing but are adjacent. Different but exist in the same sphere.

 
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