People of the UK...

@Thinkerbell In the war of 1812, the colonies had formed the Union so it was the UK against the USA.

@GrinNude

But Canada was still British colonial territory.

https://www.britannica.com/place/Canada/The-War-of-1812

@SunshineGirl Glad to help get y'all to focus more on parliamentary and less on monarchy, though I don't think we cover that much, it's cool to hear :)

@Viper Not sure what you mean or why whatever your heard is "cool"; but for a few centuries now, Britain has been run by the Government and Parliament, not the Monarch.

This, and increasing democracy at citizenry level, was not achieved in a single step, but gradually, by intermittent moves from as far back as Magna Carta. The largest jolt was Oliver Cromwell's 11 years of theocratic republic and the Restoration, which together ended the supremacy of Sovereign over Parliament;

It is this evolution rather than revolution that fools a lot of people - including some politicians who really should know better - into thinking what became the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" has no written Constitution. It does, but spread over hundreds of years' worth of charters, laws and procedures.

The monarch is the Head of State, not of the Government and Parliament that administer the State.

So if we focus more on Parliament than on the Monarchy, that reflects how the nation is run.

@ArishMell I thought you died! have not heard from you in dm in a while.

@trackboy No! Still alive! Still here!

@ArishMell you been quiet in dm

@ArishMell What about the War of 1812?

@GrinNude Ah, sorry - yes: a war perhaps overshadowed by the War of Independence and the American Civil War.

So I've looked it up.

A complicated situation involving American expansionism on that continent, France (when Napoleon was still trying to extend the French Empire in Europe); and even Spain to a small extent.

With allies on both sides from the indigenous Americans caught in the middle of fighting between the descendants of the settlers from overseas, who had usurped their lands over the last previous century or so.

Then another war, but this time a "civil" one, in 1813 between the US and Spanish and British settlers, rather than nations.

@Gangstress tedious and stupid. He's probably "gasp" straight too

@Gangstress Exactly. History is written by the Victors. A lot of Colonial History is one sided and conveniently forgets indigenous injustices. Rape, massacres etc etc

@Yulianna LOL!

No, they can keep it. Someone only this morning remarked to me that it is Independence Day.

I said, "We ought celebrate it too, but for the opposite reason to theirs!"!

@ArishMell 😂😂

@canusernamebemyusername among others yes lol

@Viper basically the same lol

@MarieUK Yes 1776 and 1812

@MartinII It wasn't the UK then, but Great Britain, but the American revolution and war of 1812 (as we call it), though Great Britain called it part of the Napoleonic Wars, but the British ships tried to control American ships and we didn't like that and went to war.

Though once Great Britain won the Napoleonic War, they were tired of war and just gave up on the war to the west.

@Viper Well, not the UK as currently constituted. Nor of course was it the USA until after the American Revolution! But I’d forgotten about 1812. Thanks!

@MartinII Yeah the War of 1812 is an interesting one, as both Canada and USA claim victory, despite being on opposite sides, and they're both kinda right.

One could say North America won, needing less help from Europe and Europe countries lost, as they were so tired and defeated from a freaking long war, they just wanted to rest...

@GovanDUNNY LOL! Grimly though, because war is no joke, and anyway mere social-clubs do not run countries.

@GovanDUNNY got proof?

And what's their motive?