Critique My Friends Theory (New Babylon)

My best friend has theorized that the USA is what the Bible refers to as "New Babylon" and that the Book of Revelation will come to pass once the USA falls to darkness (the UN, or foreign powers). He claims as the beacon of light in an otherwise dreary world, the fall of the US as a world power will signal Jesus second coming. Discuss.

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redredred · M

If his hypothesis (it’s not a theory since it can’t be tested) is based on the collection of ignorant scribbling cobbled together by a pagan Roman emperor generally known as the Bible, it’s full of shit.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@redredred I agree to a point though don't feel the need to swear about it.

It's not even a hypothesis though! A true hypothesis is a logical "what if" speculation of something open to being investigated, then either rejected or advanced by collected evidence to a theory.

The Bible was not cobbled together by a "pagan" Roman emperor either - that would not make sense - but by proto-Christians. They assembled the old Hebrew books and their more recent ideas of whoever Jesus was and whatever happened to him; to form a faith drifting away from its Jewish roots. The Romans did convert to Christianity, having failed to crush it by brutality, but they didn't assemble the anthologies that are the Bible and the Torah.

Much of it is nonsense, yes. It is just a collection of Hebrew myths and religious beliefs adopting older faiths like Zoroastrianism, and the Hebrews' distorted stories of their own history, up to the time of Jesus and his disciples - who of course were Jews and did not immediately found Christianity. That faith came later.

Believing in God, and believing the Biblical account of Jesus' life and death some 2000 years ago, although neither are provable, is one thing and a matter for individual choice.

Trying as ShadowWolf's friend does, that a dream or possibly drug-induced hallucination expressed in the Bible foretells the modern world's international politics, is hardly logical and certainly not useful!

ShadowWolf · 31-35, M

@redredred The Bible wasn't written by a Roman Emperor rofl. Revelation was influenced by Nero's actions however.

redredred · M

@ShadowWolf Constantine ordered the assembly of the Bible in 312 AD. Notice I said “cobbled together” not written. It was written by ignorant fools. Much like the people who preach it.

ShadowWolf · 31-35, M

@redredred Ahhhh thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize we were going that far forward in Roman History. I thought we were talking Ceasar Augustus to Nero Ceasar.