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Putin Floats a Summit With Trump and Xi to Discuss Ukraine Deal

Russian President Vladimir Putin has proposed that he, President Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping meet next month, without the involvement of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, to talk about Ukraine in an attempt to negotiate an end to the four-year conflict that would favor Moscow, said people familiar with the discussions.

The Kremlin has suggested holding the trilateral dialogue on the sidelines of the coming Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, the people familiar with discussions said. That gathering takes place on Nov. 18 and 19 in Shenzhen, the southern Chinese tech hub.
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MoveAlong · 70-79, M
Xi and Putin will bring him gifts of gold, tell him he's the greatest person who ever lived then have their way with him.
Northwest · M
@Khenpal1
China is eating Russia from the east , they don't need war over Taiwan when they can take half Russia for free

Xi is a Maoist, and ideologue who made his priorities clear: bring the runaway republic of Taiwan back under the fold. During his summit with Trump a few weeks ago, Xi urged Trump to "adhere to the correct position of opposing Taiwan's independence."

The Wall Street reported over the weekend that China's growth has taken a hit, down to 4.6%. Western powers can only have wet dreams of this number. There are alternatives to war, and as far as Xi is concerned, Russian territory is no substitute for Taiwan.
Khenpal1 · M
@Northwest but rest of China counts money , Wall Street is behind 30 years with China. Chinas 400 million workers are dependent of export , China imports food to survive . Generally Americans view on China is outdated with 40 years , that's why has upper hand.
Northwest · M
@Khenpal1
Wall Street is behind 30 years with China

You'll need to qualify this statement.

Chinas 400 million workers are dependent of export

You mean dependent on export? Yes, and? If you're saying that the Chinese domestic retail market is non-existent, that's not really true.

China imports food to survive

China does not strictly need to import food to avoid starvation for its basic survival, as it maintains high self-sufficiency in core plant staples like rice and wheat (over 95%). However, massive food imports are essential to sustain its current standard of living, meat-heavy modern diet, and livestock industry.

Driven by rising meat and protein consumption over the last few decades, China’s overall food self-sufficiency ratio has dropped from over 90% in historical decades down to roughly 66%.

Generally Americans view on China is outdated with 40 years

Not the samart people. If you mean that people like Hegseth and Trump still think 'no tickie no shirtie' of the Chinese, then yes and that's why Xi was not impressed at all with the Trump helicopter pad.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Of the Three, I wonder who would gain the most from their being good friends?

Each of Trump, Xi and Putin could not care less about Ukraine and her people; and not very much about their own and each others' citizens.

Putin's aim is obvious: total absorption by the Russian Federation of Ukraine and then, who else? With this would come income from, and control over, exports of Ukraine's grain harvests and maritime access.

Xi would gain more access for China to Europe and via Iran, the Middle East and Africa.

Trump would gain nothing beyond perhaps his family making big commercial deals on dubious money. Nothing for the USA - but he'll be out of his nation's politics in two years's time. Instead he would simply create a gigantic Russo-Chinese-Iranian axis totally inimical and threatening to Europe directly and to the USA indirectly.
Carla · 61-69, F
A meeting to decide who gets what.
The world divided by three...
Khenpal1 · M
@Carla you mean 3 broken economies ?😂
Carla · 61-69, F
@Khenpal1 the economies are bad for the people. Those three are doing just fine.
That's what is important though, right?
Khenpal1 · M
@Carla you mean 400 mill Chinese will EAT FOR FREE WHEN THEY ARE WITHOUT WORK ?
Khenpal1 · M
I dont think Chinese are willing to get involved
Northwest · M
@Khenpal1
Taiwan says they will blow all factories ,

The poision defense pill has always been Taiwan's strategy, but these chips do not exist without US technology licensing, through a single Dutch technology company. This can change with the right agreement between Trump and Xi. Pax Trumpist means giving up and enjoying the grift.
Khenpal1 · M
@Northwest never the less , I do not believe in Trump and his deals or agreements , no do Chinese.
Northwest · M
@Khenpal1
never the less , I do not believe in Trump and his deals or agreements , no do Chinese.

Xi made the re-unification of China the central theme of his internal conferences since taking office. He does not roll with the latest trends, like Trump.
msros · F
To snatch Ukraine land.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK Well, yes, but a geological magazine article I read some while ago commented that the deposits are considerably less smaller than often reported.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ArishMell
less smaller

One word too many, I think. It's all guesswork until they start digging.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@FreddieUK LOL! I changed the sentence but failed to remove the "less"!

It is educated guesswork, but I agree they can't be absolutely certain until actually excavating the rock.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
I really don't like the direction this is going.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
If this happens we could be a step nearer the mythical One World Government so popular as a 'thing-to-be-feared' amongst Trumplings. How ironic that their 'saviour' of the USA is prepared to sell them out to the very thing he promised to protect them from. 😄

I don't believe it will happen because there's not enough space in one room for all the egos to fit in at the same time.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@FreddieUK Well I would say sort of the opposite.

Trump is wanting to isolate the USA from both the UN and NATO. Look at the sanctions on the ICC as well as the tariffs. The threat of leaving NATO. Congress had to make a law against leaving NATO though.

Trump thinks the USA is THE number one power. When he is the reason why it's not.

Trump unfortunately thinks of China and Russia as lesser peers. Nothing more. The rest of the world are peons. Like Ukraine. No nuclear weapons. Yet North Korea and Pakistan do.

He has this absurd notion that he's an alpha male. When he doesn't even know what one is. Look at his so called sporting events background. In particularly the WWE. He's obsessed with it though. The 4th of July MMF event, in front of the Whitehouse no less. Or the praise of military parades.

Heck I sort of believe that Hegseths idea of testosterone use in the military was Trump's idea really.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/sep/28/high-t-testosterone-hegseth-trump

They use it all the time in the WWE when Trump was involved.

This all leads to Trump thinking the USA as the only real world power. MAGA. <— That's his vision. He actually believes it.

The delusions be great with this one.

 
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