The actual reason Project Freedom was called off

The Saudis responded by shutting off America’s access to both their airspace and an airport where the US military normally maintains jets and refuelling aircraft.

This is how it begins. Gulf states will stop cooperating with the US for their own survival. Russia and China will be there to form a new partnership, and the US will lose control of the Middle East completely

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Waveney · M

Fine with me. For all their faults, China is not interested in starting wars.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@Waveney No, not in starting wars; but China has very strong, developing Armed Services, and would not be afraid to fight if it thinks necessary.

The Beijing government is very clever, very patient, running a system designed for indefinite longevity untroubled by testing its citizens' views by frequent elections; and knows it is in its own interests to gain its long-term aims without bombs and bullets.

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

It needs European and other nations (not necessarily the EU as a bloc - and not a nation anyway) to form and strengthen Middle Eastern links despite the stark division from the unpleasant nature of the theocratic regimes, to lessen the influence of Russia and China.

In any case, neither Russia nor China, although harsh dictatorships themselves, are poles part ideologically and theologically from the largely-Islamic Middle East. It is noticeable though that the Saudis and others, even Afghanistan, do not protest about China persecuting the Uyghurs, who are mainly Muslims.

However no country should be trying to "control" the MIddle East; and by "no" I include the USA along with Russia, China or any European one.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@ArishMell Why the "laughter" symbol, Mr. Jshm? I was being serious.

Or are you amused by the suggestion of the USA ever relinquishing its dream of controlling large areas of the world?

jackjones68 · 51-55, M

Sounds about right. Shoot first think later!

Convivial · 26-30, F

I think that may be back to front... The middle east had used Americans to fight their battles for them mainly.....

MoveAlong · 70-79, M

You could have bet your azz whatever reason trump gave for calling it off was a lie.

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