Trump Promises "Bloodbath" If He Isn't Elected

@badlands Trump has already incited violence resulting in the deaths of others in an election he lost by a substantial margin, in 2020. He was clearly referring to renewed violence when he loses the current election in 2024. No twisting of words is necessary to understand his violent, dystopian rhetoric.

@windinhishair How do you know he will lose the election this November? Are you pre-empting the results? What do you know that we don't? If Trump receives the nomination, which it seems he will, he will be running for president. This means he has a chance at becoming president, again. People like you said it wouldn't happen in 2016, but it did. Without covid, it probably would have happened in 2020 as well.

It is clear he is talking about this industry and the effects of China manufacturing cars in Mexico and selling them to Americans. He thinks there should be substantial tariffs. If he doesn't win and there aren't, there will be a "bloodbath" because this kind of practice damages the US. In every campaign, candidates use rhetorical language. You are wrong when you say he is asking for violence, and looking for violence.

Democrats don't have a pandemic to help them this year, so they will need to start being more inventive.

@badlands You said: "He uses very powerful rhetoric, and the Democrats twist it."

You and I understand this. It is how orators move the masses. How is it that you see it, I see it, and I'll bet that Trump sees it too. Democrats twist his rhetoric to move masses also. This is the way we cowboys used to herd cattle to market. It was called the cattle drive. The Democrats are the rustlers heading off the herd in attempt to divert them into cattle cars for shipping to cow town Washington DC.

@windinhishair Nations are affected by their economies. He was not envisioning a bloodbath with blood. What are you going to say next, that he is also talking about baths? Breaking news: "Trump likes bathing in blood, says Americans should too!"

Trump said that Americans who support him, who believe the election was rigged, should "march peacefully and patriotically." If he is correct about the rigged election, and they all seem rigged, we know that a very bad picture has been painted by outside sources who have ill intent. They act like it was a disaster, when it was not. It was a group of Americans exercising their right to protest.

He was fine during covid. The US is a large country, and it was inevitable that some people would die. What else could he have done? Stopped you from going out and being a person? Delivered nefarious messages, not conceived in his mind but in the minds of the phoney experts, to the American public? You just want to be fed lie after lie. It's ok if it isn't true or if the implications aren't good; he or she is saying it in a nice way, and it all looks so controlled and professional. Why do you think this way?

Do you ever get bored of hating Trump?

@sree251 This is very true. You have a lot of wisdom to share.

@badlands We know there was no rigged election. We knew that on Election Day 2020. Gullible Cultists believe it because Trump has been telling them incessantly since then. Then he tried to steal the election through multiple means, including a last-gasp attempt at preventing the certification on January 6 through criminal violence. Over 1100 people have already been convicted or pleaded guilty for their criminal activities on that day. It had nothing to do with Americans exercising their right to protest. You do not have a right to commit violence if you disagree with the election result in a fair and free election like we had.

Trump denied the severity of covid and promoted bogus "cures" like shining bright lights inside the body and drinking pool chemicals. And members of his Cult actually did things like that. His documented lies on covid led to measurable excess deaths that other nations did not experience. To this day, covid deaths disproportionately impact red states and the gullible anti-vaxxers that live in them.

I don't hate Trump. I hate what he does, and it is important to call out his constant lies. He has a severe and untreatable mental illness that impacts tens of millions of his Cult. If Trump steals this election, then our democratic republic will no longer function as a democracy. I'm sure that you want that, but the majority of Americans do not.

@windinhishair Trump believes the election was rigged, and many of his supporters believe the election was rigged. Others who don't believe this may still want to vote for him. A rigged election could be media interference and the use of a pandemic intended to set the president up and turn him into an enemy, or it could be going further and inventing votes. A record number of people voted by mail. Why is that? It seems like the Democrats had much to benefit from covid.

All states are impacted by the virus, and being red or blue is irrelevant. Do you realize you are blaming continuing deaths, four years after the virus emerged, on a president who left office three years ago?

The media were very desperate for Trump to lose, more desperate than they were in 2016. A fair election is an election with no media coverage, which in our climate may as well be called interference. They have the power to make or break a candidate, they will change your view or make it stronger. The media will indulge and control you, but it will not inform you. Since 2016, they have made it their mission to stop Trump from being president. When he was, the Democrats and their friends in the media did everything they could to end his presidency. Trump's belief that the election was stolen is not unfounded.

@badlands Trump never believed it was rigged, according to people who spoke to him after the election. It was politically expedient for him to lie about it, and he continues to while his Cult laps it up. A record number of voters used mail-in ballots due to covid, since it was prior to a vaccine. There has never been evidence of any significant voter fraud. None.

Yes, Trump's words on covid contnue to impact the skewed death toll almost four years after he left office, and likely will continue to for the foreseeable future. His Cult didn't suddenly change their response to covid once Trump lost the election.

The only reason Trump has been indicted for crimes is because he has committed crimes. It has nothing to do with the media. If anything, the media gives Trump the benefit of the doubt more than it should.

@windinhishair According to people? And who are they? I said it doesn't have to be a matter of voter fraud, for an election to be rigged.

[quote]There has never been evidence of any significant voter fraud. None.[/quote]

There wouldn't be in a system where elections are rigged, would there? What evidence are they going to find when they are the ones doing the rigging, orchestrating the crime? Are they going to send themselves to jail?

A lot of people commit crimes, and sometimes the justice system never goes after them. What are Trump's alleged crimes? Mostly irrelevant nonsense to get at him and persecute him, and these charges around "trying to overturn election results." Can they prove he did this knowingly? Seems to me that he was convinced of it being rigged.

In your prior response, you said: "Trump has a severe and untreatable mental illness." Does he have this, or is he planning and knowing everything?

@windinhishair You said: "The only reason Trump has been indicted for crimes is because he has committed crimes. It has nothing to do with the media. If anything, the media gives Trump the benefit of the doubt more than it should."

What crime has Derek Chauvin committed? Did anyone give him the benefit of the doubt regardless of what the autopsy finding was?

@badlands Trump has been indicted on 88 criminal counts. He will be tried according to law and convicted or not according to the evidence. Trump told others he knew the election was not rigged--people in his inner circle who have already testified to their observations.

Trump's severe mental illness is on full display in his public interactions. He lies with impunity, and makes up his own "facts" as the need arises. But he also provides insight into his own goals, such as when he announces he will be dictator for a day or predicts a bloodbath when he loses another election. At present, he is petrified he will go to prison for his crimes and is doing anything he can to avoid that, whether it be legal or not. He knows his Cult listens to him, so he will condition them to accept violence on his command.

The bigger question for you is: will you commit violence on his behalf when he tells you the election is being stolen? Will you stand against that violence, or vocally or silently support it?

@sree251 Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd and was convicted for his crime, as was appropriate and just.

@windinhishair Murdered?

@sree251 Yes, and he was convicted of said murder, as was appropriate and just.

@windinhishair If you were pulled over by the police and told to get into his cruiser, would you disobey, resist arrest, and struggle against backup officers trying to get you into the police car till you are wrestled to the ground and had to be pin down on the pavement by four cops till you die?

@sree251 The Slave Patrollers are required to give you a reason for why you are being arrested. They are not to engage in cruel and unusual punishment on you when they arrest you. Knelling on you neck till you die is cruel and unusal punishment conducted by an agent of the government and is forbidden by the federal and the Minnesota State consitutions. So, even if the person doesn't die from that treatment, the Slave Patroller is guilty of violating the person's federal and State constitutions human and civil rights and should be immediately terminated and barred from ever being hired as a cop in any jurisdiction in the country.

@windinhishair Are they to be believed? Who are they? Trump has been firm in his belief. He believes the election was rigged in some way.

If the coming election isn't rigged, Trump will win.

His supporters were not committing violence on his behalf, not when he told them to be peaceful. You are imagining violence and you have a poor perception of Trump, an extreme and dishonest one.

@badlands Trump staff in the White House have testified under oath that he knew he had lost the election. They were there and heard it first hand from losing candidate Trump. He never believed he had won. He did believe that if he lied about it long and hard enough, he could steal the election.

There is a long way to go to the election, which Trump will almost certainly lose.

Trump incited the violence on January 6 and he will no doubt call his minions to violence again. Will you be joining them or just cheering them on from afar?

@windinhishair What he said was a pile of nothing, some throwaway remarks. Trump told us all that he thought the election was stolen, and they are finding it hard to prove otherwise. Significant voter fraud could have taken place, and if it didn't, rigging can happen in other ways.

You say: "Trump will almost certainly lose." What do you know that we don't? You believe his followers are wrong for believing the election was rigged, and then you make comments like that.

Repeating the "inciting violence" claim does not make it true. Unlike you, I don't know if Trump is going to win or lose. If the US was not meddled with by the media, and if the Democrats played fairly, he would probably win. He won't tell anyone to use violence, in the same way he hasn't told anyone to engage in a bloodbath. These lies and distortions of truth get you nowhere with people who can see through them. Maybe the American public will be able to show you this in November.

@badlands Yes, he did tell you that the election was stolen. That's true. He lied. He was telling his aides and advisors something different. You were played and continue to be.

There was no voter fraud. No evidence has ever been uncovered showing there was.

Trump's followers are wrong for continuing to believe the false story about voter fraud and the election. I doubt they will ever accept reality.

Trump has already told people to be violent, on January 6, so there is every reason to believe he will be so again. Talking about a national "bloodbath" following his next defeat is part of that. You can refuse to accept reality, but it doesn't change reality.

@windinhishair What do I trust? What Donald Trump has been telling us since the election almost four years ago, or the testimonies of the aides who have chosen to participate in this circus? If he said those things, they are throwaway comments, or he is a man who knows he must still lead the country for its own sake. Since 2016, Democrats have done nothing but tell lies and harass Trump. It is worse than any accusation you have against him. He knows he is working with a corrupt system, and that this system hurts your country.

When did he tell anyone to be violent? He said a bloodbath in relation to the automobile industry. Trump likes putting tariffs on foreign goods coming to America, especially from China. He made no mention of violence or Americans fighting with each other. You should watch what he said instead of telling lies and creating propaganda.

@badlands We've hashed this to death. Trump was clearly talking about the nation--the same nation he tried to lead as president following an insurrection he planned, stoked, and tried to implement. He has been indicted for his actions, and over 1,100 additional anti-American terrorists (aka Trump Cultists) have been convicted and/or pleaded guilty.

You are not going to believe what that Trump is anything but infallible, because you worship him. He will not be president again. At some point you will have to take stock of your Cult beliefs. Hopefully it is sooner rather than later.