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KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE: YES OR NO AND EVEN BETTER BUT OPTIONAL WHY EITHER WAY PLEASE.

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Ontheroad · M
I voted no and the why is fairly simple... I saw it as a boon for the Koch empire, but few others here (North America) would see much in the way of benefits when weighed against the potential environmental impact.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Energy independence trumps that no pun intended. @Ontheroad
Ontheroad · M
@jackjjackson That's the thing about the whole project, too many questions about just how much of the added oil would stay here as opposed to being shipped to foreign markets.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Questions from who? @Ontheroad
Ontheroad · M
@jackjjackson The government, consumer groups, conservationists and on and on. Bottom line, the Keystone XL pipeline will transport crude oil from Alberta, Canada to Nebraska. The oil will then flow through another pipeline to Gulf Coast refineries, where it will be refined into petroleum products like gasoline.

Gulf Coast refineries export about two-thirds of their products, according to a U.S. Energy Information Administration report and that means we get essentially nothing in the way of helping our energy independence or lowering costs at the pump, while risking ecological disasters.

It would have benefited oil companies and Koch, who already rip us off.
@Ontheroad
You’re correct about how much of the oil would benefit the US , Canadian tar sands oil is heavy sour crude type and our refinery capacity for that grade of oil is extremely limited so that the bulk of the oil would go straight into tankers for export.
Our capacity to refine additional heavy sour crude isn’t available
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Correct. Being a net exporter equals energy independence. @Ontheroad
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Being a net exporter equals energy independence. @Onestarlitnight
@jackjjackson net exporter of Canadian crude??? 🤣🤣🤣
We’re exporting it because we can’t process it not because we don’t need it
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Exporting it = getting paid @Onestarlitnight
@jackjjackson
What part of its Canadian oil did you miss?
We’re not going to get energy independence by transporting someone else’s oil to a tanker in the Gulf of Mexico 🤣
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
The transporting it and selling it = profit @Onestarlitnight
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@Ontheroad Key word , " Potential" The same things were said about the Alaska pipeline and others as well, and none of those fears came about
@fanuc2013 Let me know how that works out when it leaks.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
IF there are ANY leaks your backyard seems appropriate. @PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow A pipeline is a much safer way to transport anything like that! There hasn't been any problems with the Alaska pipeline. Remember the Exxon Valdez? Or the train derailment in Ohio last year? I could go on and on!
@fanuc2013 sure, trains and ships have problems. In the case of trains it is almost always lack of safety regulations being followed.

But everything I said about pipelines is accurate. In fact I got the info from the company that was going to build it.

If you don't like it take it up with TCPL.
@jackjjackson Figures you would try and foist the consequences onto someone else.
@fanuc2013 And the Exxon Valdez was going on 40 years ago.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Since you’re so intent on creating trouble it’s appropriate that it visit you. @PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Who exactly do you claim would give you inside information Pix? @PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
@jackjjackson My best friend is a former employee of TCPL. But this info is public information available on their website.
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