Bibby Stockholm

no bigotry no ignorant posts no hate just please have a good honest discussion please

So the Bibby Stockholm had started to have immigrants put on for processing

The UK Government bought this barge but had it towed by Italians to the UK spent months being refurbished

Its meant to hold 250 people the Government are putting 500 people in

the Government keep saying its safe, cheaper than Hotels but have refused to allow free full access to the press and have kept the full details of the cost private

knowing how easily this government lie its just a disaster waiting to happen

The real problem is the fact from 2010 and austerity under this government immigrants aren't being processed very fast it takes at least 6 months

the problem is the government haven't got any safe routes unless you come from Ukraine or Hong Kong also with not many staff to process illegal immigrants the number is always going to go up

as for the new immigration bill all that tackles is legal immigration for people studying not to bring dependants, if immigrants who are here illegally who work, pay taxes have children born here would be deported, which also means anyone who was trafficked or modern slavery have no rights

the government also failed to negotiate any return deal with France as in with trade deals the UK government are desperate and agree to anything

so the first 50 illegal immigrants have arrived of which some haven't been taken there

its free for illegal immigrants to go to and from so how many days or weeks will it be before headlines immigrants disappear from Bibby Stockholm and the government making even more excuses

it makes it even more of a farce as the previous Home secretary was Priti Patel from India the Current Home secretary Suella Braveman also from India the current PM also from India all pushing an agenda which if was around when there parents arrived would block there parents from arriving

now all of this has come from Brexit taking away the deal we had with countries to send failed illegal immigrants back which the government knew which people smugglers know and have taken advantage of

until the government start to put resources into processing admit it stop using people with nothing as the problem nothing will change

so now we have more legal immigrants from other countries than the EU to cover the shortage of workers

OldBrit · 61-69, M

I struggle to even understand the term illegal migration when applying it to asylum seekers.

The vast majority of those arriving in the small boats claim asylum. The majority of those seeking it are granted it (of those that the claims have been processed).

The government is only throwing all this nonsense around to disguise the fact that the backlog of asylum claims has continually grown year on year at an alarming rate.

The barge is another attempt but I don't see how that achieves anything. Get on and process the claims that will cut the hotel bill as tool not have 150,000 people stuck in the bloody system.

Taking a more wide spread view the answer surely is to stop the need, actually so something about cruel regimes, do something about the disparity in wealth so there's no reason to come to UK? But sadly the real answers are not the ones people want to engage with.

milkymum1 · 31-35, F

@OldBrit I know but its something the tory spin machine came up with to scaremonger

yes its now at an all time high as they've cut back on so many staff that they can't process that many whihc is the real problem as you say

the barge is just headline grabbing (oh look at what we are doing) rather than actually dealing with the ream problem, all they do is headline grabbing

there's a few other reasons too stop going on about how good the UK is when there's a world rescission, have more staff to process immigrants and also talk to countries and get agreements to send people back who fail asylum instead of this shouting down at other countries because the more that's done the more countries won't help

OldBrit · 61-69, M

@milkymum1 so today's figures claim 15,000 withdrawn cases. That's where they've "lost contact" with the applicant. Fgs unbelievable incompetence.