Then how do you explain lower crime rates, better education, better health, and higher standards of living in blue states?
The idea that people are fleeing blue states for red ones is an oversimplification. People are leaving the midwest and rural areas in the South for Florida and cities in Texas. This includes people leaving rural Texas. So much for your theory.
Also, the obsession you people have developed around trans is weird. We're talking 1% of the country. How does this personally affect you? Other than having to live in a country with people you don't like.
A Republican is someone who considers themselves "tolerant" because they go swimming in the same ocean foreigners are swimming in.
People are leaving the rural West and moving to the places you mentioned, including Los Angeles, the Bay Area, Portland, Seattle, and New England. This is changing the voting patterns in Georgia, Arizona, and North Carolina, which are trending blue. Texas' shift to a blue state has been anticipated for years but is probably a few election cycles away.
@LeopoldBloom Uh huh. And I see a lot of moving to "Red" states and some serious migration away from the West coast. The point of the post is to note the movement of citizens to Red states and the concern as to what changes that would bring.
I don't think your responses refute that people ARE moving to Red states and moving away from Blue or Purple states.
The most leaving is being done according to your chart from coastal CA and OR both liberal havens. Your chart is solely about moving and not politics. @LeopoldBloom
@jackjjackson You obviously didn't look at the chart. How do you explain the influx into Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle? The parts of California that are emptying out are the rural areas.
You're the one who claimed people are moving because of politics. I would be interested in seeing a study on that. I suspect that less than 1% of people who relocate are moving because they disagree politically with the leaders of the state they're in. And most of those are people like teachers and doctors who are fleeing red states where they feel that they can't practice their profession safely.
@jackjjackson Those are among the places people are moving to. Professionals have been leaving red states for a while now, not just since the Dobbs decision.
@jackjjackson Bank of America? OK. Mine is from the census bureau, so what do they know? But city level statistics are of interest, as are state level ones.
Interesting how many people are moving to liberal cities like Austin, Charlotte, and Cleveland. I would guess that the changes have more to do with cost of living than some idiotic theory that people are leaving liberal areas and moving to conservative ones.
@jackjjackson Ideology has very little effect on economics. There are conservative-run cities that are in the toilet, and liberal-run ones which by your own admission are doing well. Some people would say that rising home prices are a sign of economic success. They do induce some people to relocate to lower-cost areas as an easy upgrade. If you think people are fleeing the West Coast because of "liberalism," that's just your own ideology talking. People are also leaving rural Texas for urban Texas - is that also due to "ideology?"
Let’s make this super clear Leo. Smart folks are fleeing west coast cities and other like Chicago and NYC due to crime directly caused by liberal policies. So far that has not happened in Austin or Miami. @LeopoldBloom
Do you have statistics from a reputable source, or you're just parroting the propaganda you hear on Tucker Carlson?
Crime is not caused by liberal policies any more than it's caused by conservative ones. I doubt if more than a handful of people are fleeing because of "crime" which is still at or close to historic lows.
Many ultra liberal DA’s are not prosecuting theft crimes AT ALL. business owners have been stripped of the legal right to protect their own property that they have paid for. The mayor of Miami is a dem however not an extremist leftie like you inanely approve. @LeopoldBloom
@jackjjackson That is not why people are leaving SF. They're leaving because of the insane cost of living.
The mayor of Miami is Francis X. Suarez, who just announced his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination. So if he's a Democrat, maybe you should remind him because he seems to think he's a Republican. Suarez is known for accepting a $170,000 payment from a real estate developer, calling his impartiality into question. He also has arranged to be paid in Bitcoin, and was in the process of arranging a development with Sam Bankman-Fried right before the FTX collapse. Suarez's father, Xavier Suarez, was the first Cuban-American mayor of Miami, and was removed from office following findings of voter fraud.
If you couldn't even be bothered to check Suarez's party affiliation before spouting your opinion of his governing style, I think anything else you have to say on this topic can be safely ignored.
On this United Van Lines study, "crime" did not even appear as a reason why people move.
