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US Banking system remains "sound and resilient"

A direct quote from the minutes of the March 2023 Federal Reserve Open Market Committee meeting is:

Participants agreed that the US banking system remained sound and resilient.

Does this give you a warm and fuzzy feeling? Is the above quote the new "inflation is transitory" meme? I humbly ask this esteemed group for its insightes.

Thank you in advance for the well thought-out, civilized and insightful discussion that I'm sure will ensue.
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irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
Thank you all for your classy and erudite responses. You have really outdone yourselves today!

I am now a much better informed citizen.
Depends on who we are talking about. If we are talking about the billionaire and donor class banking is always stable. Even if the entire industry meltsdown they get a minimum of a golden parachute or even a raise and bonus for their incompetence. As for wealthy depositors the US government will empty the treasury to make sure they get every penny back. Anyone below multi millionaire it is safer assuming they are lying to you and acting accordingly.
@Slade Again you are accusing me of your own failures.
Slade · 56-60, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

"I know you are but what am I" - part 10,766

OD'ing on jizz again eh twink boy?
@Slade Again, that is all you. No need to scream it at me repeatedly.
Careful, you'll attract financial analysis from this lot:


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@BritishFailedAesthetic



BritishNRASupporter = "where are the nazis and anti semites? I don't get it?


You are a dishonest cowardly fascist. Nobody on earth is as stupid as this. But you want to pretend you are.
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow

You are a dishonest cowardly fascist.

Whoa, don't beat yourself up "buddeh"

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@BritishFailedAesthetic And not surprisingly all you can come back with is something completely nonsensical.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
is it more sound and resilient since Monday's takeover of First Republic? Or does using taxpayer dollars to bail out billion dollar banks that weren't properly regulated in the first place become a sort of "moral hazard", where bad investors and bank managers can always expect some sort of rescue?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Heartlander banks do pay insurance premiums to the FDIC. The relationship of premium amount to loan risk isn't well established, though. The premium size seems more related to the size of the depositor base. customer with checking accounts typically don't cause failures. Bad loans do. But whenever the FDIC steps in and tries to scale back higher risk mortgages and commercial construction loans, politicians go nuts because this is "strangling the economy".

Even if you have NO risky loans, you can still die the blink of an eye. Silicon Valley Bank had (mostly) Treasury Bills in it's "asset" portfolio. very few actual loans. The problem was, when you need to sell a "T Bill", it's price may have gone down if the Fed raised interest rates after you bought it. So SVB bought EXACTLY what the government said to, and it was the cause of their demise. As cutomers pulled their deposits, they couldn't get rid of their T Bills to match assets and liabilities.

No FDIC bank risk examiner is going to down rate a bank for buying T Bills. Its what they constantly tell banks to do. Until Fed Funds increases turn them into cancer.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Good.. You understand the situation then. The rich get covered and the poor get screwed. I can give you a couple of thousand words on how any insurance the bank carries will go the the board and shareholders and not the small dpeositers or front of house people. And the commercial end of those insurances will be paid for indirectly by the depositors. That just how business is American style.. And this worked fine as long as the toxic end of the stick could be held out to overseas investors. But that pyramid is collapsing before your eyes. The Hly dollar isnt so holy and people inside America are going to get stuck with the bill this time.. Guess which people🫵.. 😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman when have i ever suggested otherwise?

and american taxpayers and citizens always get stuck paying for whatever happens.
code for: we're screwed.....
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
Although I am not a huge fan of Janet Yellen or the federal reserve, one has to admit the following:

1. Several regional banks were taken over by the FDIC. Large banks immediately began due diligence to buy the assets of the failed institutions

2. The dollar did not drop

3. The chinese yuan and russian ruble did not soar

4. expectations for a recession later this year continue to be based on Fed Funds rate increases, not risk taking by regional banks

I don't believe Banking Regulators are smart enough to do a better job than they already do. If they were, they would have flagged SVB, whose CEO is a Federal Reserve Board of Governors member.

The US financial system is better than most other nations, but constantly struggles to keep up with and assess the risk of things like "633 crypto currencies"; demands by china that it's yuan (worth 7 cents) replace the dollar in global trading; an unexpected war in Europe; the Covid 19 pandemic; reckless federal deficit spending by both US political parties; major counterfeiting of US Currency by North Korea; identity theft on an ever expanding scale.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@SusanInFlorida Are you pro some sort of Balanced Budget Amendment? How about the Taylor Rule for the Fed?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@irishmolly72 i have never advocated a balanced budget. But if the american electorate feels this is the only way to tame runaway spending, I say their voices should be heard.

The problem with "balanced budget" is that so many career politicians use this as a reason to propose fantastic tax increases.

If you tote up all the democrat proposed bills submitted to congress every session, the spending generally runs in the $10-$20 trillion range. More than 3X the actual amount we already spend.

there is a huge disconnect between the impulse of politicians to give away "free stuff" to ensure their re-election, and our ability to pay for their "generosity."
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Banks used to invest in t bills and bonds now its crypto
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@masterofyou Thats true. But pretty soon thats what the $US is going to be backed on too.😷
@MarineBob What exactly are you basing that on? Crypto exchanges are not banks... that is part of the problem.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow In the meantine, another San Francisco Bank is collapsing😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Yes and no. The banks themselves only count the numbers.. So its all good as long as there isnt a run on the banks. The inflation problem is another story. First, supply chains are still being squeezed. Second , some businesses have discovered that keeping supply tight means they dont have to discount and compete. (Dont you just love Capitalism?) So they can make more profit ouf less turnover. (Check the latest profit numbers if you dont believe me) and third, the looming Petrodollar shake out will soon drive up the $US cost of imports. Buckle up. Its going to be a bumpy ride..😷
masterofyou · 70-79, M
Hahaha,,,, would you believe we might be heading for depression?? Really, it's not funny, just go out and buy gold and silver....
masterofyou · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman true as i use my card and i pay it off every month... The thing is the government wants to control your card and tell you what you can buy,when, and where you buy...

Just another freedom taken way... Don't laugh just look around and see what is happening here...
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@masterofyou I dont see the govt as quite that draconian. Whoever, they can stop you bargaining with cash for a better deal and thats a good enough reason not to let it happen. I have my own reasons.😷
masterofyou · 70-79, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Good luck to you.....
this is a fairly old podcast that I found quite interesting (there's quite a few of those, actually), but in the show, they kinda went into the fundamentals of the question 'what is money?' -
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2011/02/15/131963928/the-friday-podcast-a-giant-stone-coin-at-the-bottom-of-the-sea
island of Yap, FWIW.
in some ways, money is all a matter of many people's desire for it and confidence that other people want it.
I think all the banking crisis stuff sorta unscore the fact that so much of the modern world is just held together with a sort of faith.
Ozuye502 · 36-40, M
Im putting this lock out tag out the biden administration and the federal government as whole.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Didn’t they say that right before the Great Depression ? Haha
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
@AthrillatheHunt Here is an example of financial stability:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/first-republic-bank-shares-plunge-as-rescue-hopes-falter/ar-AA1auqKB
Heartlander · 80-89, M
If it was they wouldn't have to say so.

I took a peek at current federal banking regulations and they are as complicated and convoluted as our tax laws. our tax laws are so convoluted that it takes years for the IRS to audit a big corporation, and probably that long for the FDIC or the OCC to determine that a bank is solvent.
Ynotisay · M
The U.S. banking system is sound and resilient. Inflation is falling (8 months in a row) and it is transitory. History show us that. Not much more to say based on what you shared.
Northwest · M
Thank you in advance for the well thought-out, civilized and insightful discussion that I'm sure will ensue.

So, which parts of the https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/fomcminutes20230322.pdf minutes, made you anxious? Certainly it was more than a few words. Right?
MarineBob · 56-60, M
But all of the sudden they're selling their paper assets (foreclosures/repos) at losses
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
The "sound and resiliant" First Republic Bank has just failed. Who's ready to sound the all clear??
The military and the sanctions are totally working. World domination is a guarantee.
irishmolly72 · 56-60, F
Joe Biden's thinks the Taylor Rule is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMfxTcSVIiw



Kamela's thoughts:


The Taylor Rule:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/taylorsrule.asp
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
No worries, joe still has to finish

 
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