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Is it really Democracy Trump is threatening or is it civil society?


To ensure that our democracy survives and that violence is not regarded as an alternative to victory at the ballot box, Trump’s conduct must have consequences. Refusing to prosecute Trump and his inner circle would only encourage irreverence to democracy. What a monumental failure of leadership that would be.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/22/jan-6-merrick-garland-prosecution-donald-trump/

I get the appeal of trying to paint Trumpism as fascism or Autocracy, etc, but really, once you start encouraging citizens to attack other citizens, even if they are public servants, it seems like you're going way past democracy.

Even Monarchies and chieftainships had laws and mechanisms for state sponsored dispute resolution to keep people from killing each other.

I'm thinking some pre-historic hunt leader, probably told hot blooded warrior/hunters first told folks to not kill each other and submit to some sort of third party judgment, if only to make sure there were enough hunters left to feed the tribe.

Vigilantism and lawlessness isn't just undemocratic. It's uncivilized, imo.
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Budwick · 70-79, M
Civilization is founded on communal concerns and motivations. It predates social contract theory, democracy, and even a dictatorship or monarchy can't govern without norms, laws, and some sort of ordered dispute resolution.

Yeah, like one sided fake trials that don't allow opposition.
@Budwick McCarthy had options to allow opposition to this, and even Trump is criticsing him or how he dealt with them.

McCarthy basically decided that "fake trials" were preferable to more "real ones."

Trump's now pissing on him, but he's still not willing to expose his dick under oath.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@MistyCee As usual, you a are not specific.

Look, The panel includes seven Democrats and two Republicans - all Trump enemies.
Sound fair to you?
@Budwick I never said it was fair. McCarthy made it less so by pulling all five Republicans, though, instead of just the 2 Pelosi rejected. There could have been 3 more Republicans on the Committee, as Trump has just pointed out again, but McCarthy decided to play it this way.

I actually agree with Trump here. This is not a trial and McCarthy seems to have set it up to be even less trial-like.