Is it strange that when I hear references to “the framers of the constitution “, I think of some stern men with gray wigs:

I used to have something like that in my head too, lol. A few years ago I saw a 20 minute history piece on it on YouTube, and now I can’t help but see 4 or 5 regular guys in a pub getting sloshed and planing out both the war and the constitution they intended to fight for

that's funny...I kind of thought of a different framer - you know, the kind that builds houses

A wonderful image!