I don't watch Fox News because it doesn't report all news,they are biased and are not televising January 6 hearing. They are NOT Godly!

@Thinkerbell https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-press-in-the-third-reich

@Thinkerbell Hitler brainwashed people against "the communists" until they were hateful and paranoid, and voted for him.

@Thinkerbell I would suggest watching all news sources EXCEPT Fox News and OAN.

@LordShadowfire FOX is not a ethical company they are criminal in my opinion the way they are avoiding the hearing on Trumps threats and lies!

@Carazaa

Hitler never got more than 35% of the German vote in an honest election.

And "the communists" were [u]a very real threat[/u] to Germany long before Hitler seized power, or even before the nazi party existed.
Read about the Spartacist uprising in Berlin in 1919, and how they took over Munich for several weeks with a communist "Bavarian Soviet" republic.

[c=009E4F]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising[/c]

[c=009E4F]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic[/c]

And who put down the abortive communist revolution in Germany?
No, not Hitler, but the Social Democratic government of the Weimar Republic, for which the communists hated the social democrats ever after.

What enabled the nazis' rise to power was threefold:

1. Justified fear of a communist revolution (i.e., a repeat of the Russian revolution in Germany)
2. The hyperinflation of 1922-23 that wiped out the savings of the middle class.
3. The Great Depression of 1929 that wiped out 25% of the jobs of the working class.

And even after that, when Hitler was legally appointed chancellor in a coalition government, he and the nazis illegally seized power to make himself absolute dictator with the Enabling Act (extracted under duress from the Reichstag) after the Reichstag fire incident (possibly staged by the nazis themselves).

[c=009E4F]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933[/c]

@Thinkerbell [quote]Hitler never got more than 35% of the German vote in an honest election.[/quote]
Neither did Drumpf.
[quote]And "the communists" were a very real threat to Germany long before Hitler seized power, or even before the nazi party existed.[/quote]
Yes. Hitler used a real social problem as a platform for fear-mongering to inspire hatred in the German people. Just like Trump.

@Thinkerbell I just said I don't watch FOX or MSNBC!

@Thinkerbell This is what I wrote 15 minutes ago to another person here


Carazaa · F
@rrraksamam I don't want a criminal government that makes me wealthy, favours some, lies, and starves some people. I want a good government that tells the truth, and news that does not allow fake news, or lies. I want no commentaries when I watch the news. I don't watch FOX, and I don't watch MSNBC because I don't want biased news!

@LordShadowfire @LordShadowfire

[quote]"Neither did Drumpf."[/quote]

Gee, this article says Trump got 46.9% of the popular vote, and the Democrats say it was the most honest election ever.

[c=009E4F]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election[/c]

[quote]"Yes. Hitler used a real social problem as a platform for fear-mongering to inspire hatred in the German people. Just like Trump."[/quote]

Really?
Where was the American hyperinflation?
Where was the Great Depression?
And where were Trump's two million armed storm troopers parading in the streets and breaking heads of members of other parties?

You are engaging in the Redutio ad Hilerum Fallacy, Corvie.
Godwin's Law in action. 😂 😂 😂

@Thinkerbell [quote]Gee, this article says Trump got 46.9% of the popular vote, and the Democrats say it was the most honest election ever.[/quote]
That was sarcasm. Thing is, we both agree he lost the popular vote, which is what I wanted you to admit.
[quote]Really?
Where was the American hyperinflation?
Where was the Great Depression?
And where were Trump's two million armed storm troopers parading in the streets and breaking heads of members of other parties?[/quote]
I didn't say it was the same social problem. I said both Hitler and Trump used very real problems facing their respective countries to unite their people in fear and hatred of an "other".

[quote]You are engaging in the Redutio ad Hilerum Fallacy, Corvie.
Godwin's Law in action.[/quote]
It's not Godwin's law if he is literally acting like Hitler.

@Carazaa

[quote]" I don't watch FOX, and I don't watch MSNBC because I don't want biased news!"[/quote]

And you think ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS or CNN aren't biased? (not mention the NY Times or the WaPo)

Think again.

@Thinkerbell

@LordShadowfire

[quote]'"That was sarcasm."[/quote]

Oh, I see... it becomes "sarcasm" when you're called on it. 😂 😂 😂

[quote]"Thing is, we both agree he [Trump] lost the popular vote..."[/quote]

I never claimed he didn't lose the popular vote.

[quote]"It's not Godwin's law if he is literally acting like Hitler."[/quote]

There goes Godwin's Law again. 😂 😂 😂

@LordShadowfire

[quote]"Your fallacy is Tu Quoque..."[/quote]

You're wrong, as usual, Corvie. 😂

Carazaa was implying that the news sources other than Fox and MSNBC (the two that she doesn't watch because of their bias) are NOT biased.

I was disabusing her of that notion.

@Thinkerbell [quote]Oh, I see... it becomes "sarcasm" when you're called on it. 😂 😂 😂[/quote]
Nope. I knew I was off by 10%. I was tricking you into Googling it. You fell for my clever plan, and that's that. End of discussion.
[quote]There goes Godwin's Law again.[/quote]
Mike Godwin himself said that if you are actually analyzing actions and words and find a comparison with Hitler after careful research, it doesn't count as Godwin's law. I realize this is an appeal to authority fallacy, but the man who literally created the law said that it doesn't apply when someone is genuinely being Hitler like. Okay? Mike Godwin disagrees with you about the application of Godwin's law.
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#:~:text=In%20December%202015%2C%20Godwin%20commented,%2C%20or%20any%20other%20politician.%22

[quote]You're wrong, as usual, Corvie. 😂[/quote]
You misspelled brilliant.

[quote]Carazaa was implying that the news sources other than Fox and MSNBC (the two that she doesn't watch because of their bias) are NOT biased.[/quote]
Nope. She just said that she doesn't watch those two sources because they are biased. You were the one who brought up other networks, falsely claiming bias on their part to distract from the fact that your precious Fox News is a cesspit of lies.

@Thinkerbell[b] I watched the entire Trump hearing so far with no commentaries (every news program in the world covered it except FOX.

I watch PBS various news programs, And sometimes Evening news with Lester Holt, or Norah odonell, or meet the press, and Swedish news rapport, and Aktuellt. If there is a trial or hearing I don't read about it I watch the whole trial myself and make up my mind after hearing the witnesses testify.

@LordShadowfire

[quote]"Nope. I knew I was off by 10%"[/quote]

Being off by only 10% must be a new record for you, Corvie. It generally is 100%. 😂

[quote]"Mike Godwin himself said that if you are actually analyzing actions and words and find a comparison with Hitler after careful research, it doesn't count as Godwin's law."[/quote]

Only a few people since Hitler can be reasonably compared with him.
Stalin, Mao, the Kims in North Korea and Pol Pot come to mind, for example.
To put Trump in their category is egregious Godwinism, but of course you are an egregious lefty partisan, Corvie. 😂 😂

[quote]"Nope. She just said that she doesn't watch those two sources because they are biased."[/quote]

Nope... she was also implying the others are NOT biased. Unless of course you wish to accuse her of watching news sources that ARE biased in a direction she favors. 😂 😂 😂

@Thinkerbell [quote]Being off by only 10% must be a new record for you, Corvie. It generally is 100%. 😂[/quote]
Nope. You're thinking of yourself again. That's probably why you're crying. 😆
[quote]Only a few people since Hitler can be reasonably compared with him.
Stalin, Mao, the Kims in North Korea and Pol Pot come to mind, for example.
To put Trump in their category is egregious Godwinism, but of course you are an egregious lefty partisan, Corvie. 😂 😂[/quote]

I'm going to let you argue directly with Mike Godwin. Here's exactly what he said on the subject:
[quote]In December 2015, Godwin commented on comparisons to Nazism and fascism being made by several articles between Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, saying: "If you're thoughtful about it and show some real awareness of history, go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about [c=BF0000]Trump[/c], or any other politician." In August 2017, Godwin made similar remarks on social media with respect to the two previous days' Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, endorsing and encouraging comparisons of its alt-right organizers to Nazis.[/quote]
So there it is. Mike Godwin specifically disagrees with [i]you[/i]. He disagrees with [i]your[/i] attempt to apply [i]his[/i] law.

@Carazaa

[quote]"I watched the entire Trump hearing so far with no commentaries."[/quote]

Good for you. The networks I saw had fawning commentaries in favor of the Democrats.

BUT, did you notice that the "hearing" was structured in such a way that there was NO cross-examination or rebuttal...? 🤔

I'd call that a kangaroo hearing.

@Thinkerbell It wasn't a trial, that's why. It was a hearing.

Look, I'm not exactly proud of the fact that I have personal experience with this shit, but cross-examinations and stuff don't happen until the trial is underway. This is all preliminary stuff to determine whether or not to go ahead with a criminal trial.

@Thinkerbell So how come you didn't answer my previous comment about Godwin's law?

@LordShadowfire

[quote]"...go ahead and refer to Hitler when you talk about Trump,[u] or any other politician[/u]."[/quote]

If that's what Godwin said, he foolishly undermined his own law.
Yeah, right, Trump (or any other [American?] politician) is comparable to Pol Pot. 🙄 🙄 🙄

@Thinkerbell They interviews Trumps own appointed republican lawyers and asked them what Trump told them. They all said he pressured them to lie!

@LordShadowfire

[quote]"Look, I'm not exactly proud of the fact that I have personal experience with this shit, but cross-examinations and stuff don't happen until the trial is underway."[/quote]

Nonsense. I've heard plenty of House and Senate hearings where there was back-and-forth argumentation.

Maybe the most memorable came during the Army-McCarthy hearings:

[media=https://youtu.be/rAAKjg4gRpQ]

@Carazaa

[quote]"They all said he pressured them to lie!"[/quote]

And maybe they were pressured by Schiff's committee to say that, under threat that they would otherwise be prosecuted.

Trouble is, there was no one at the "hearing" to ask them if there had been that kind of pressure applied by Schiff's committee.