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How hard are some minimum firearm rules

For example:

Have red flag laws
Raise gun and ammo age for purchase to 21
Limit clip sizes
Have some type of qualification in place in order to buy semi auto weapons
Restrict types of ammo. What is being used is more lethal than legitimately needed for sport and even home protection

These seem like no brainers that infringe on a minimum scale

It’s not like every American can get cleared by qualified therapist whatever that is to be a safe gun owner. Can’t make people go. Quality of therapists vary wildly and they have biases. Who pays them? How much? Even if cleared today the person could be a good faker like the polygraph passing liars or have an overnight or later change and become a nut

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room101 · 51-55, M

I have to go with my experiences of living in the uk, working in some decidedly dodgy places and living in Continental Europe. Experiences which show me that guns are never the answer to any problem.

March 1996 in Dunblane, Scotland: mass shooting which took the lives of sixteen children and one teacher. Fifteen children were also injured. As a result, the UK implemented some of the strictest gun ownership laws in the world.

Number of UK school shootings before 1996 – ZERO
Number of UK school shootings since 1996 – ZERO
Number of UK mass shootings since 1996 – ONE
Number of violent insurrections against the incumbent UK government since 1996 – ZERO
Number of foreign invasions of the UK since 1996 - ZERO
Number of contentious UK election results since 1996 – ZERO
Number of UK election results superseded by an outside body since 1996 – ZERO
Number of laws passed, in the UK, restricting the bodily autonomy of women since 1996 – ZERO
Number of laws passed, in the UK, restricting the sexual autonomy of people since 1996 – ZERO
Number of laws passed, in the UK, restricting what books children can and cannot read since 1996 – ZERO
Number of laws passed, in the UK, restricting what children can and cannot be taught in school since 1996 – ZERO

Yeah, you’re guns make you so fucking free and so fucking safe. My arse!

One more little titbit of info that will probably blow your minds:

Number of firearms carried by the general police force in the UK - ZERO

Yeah, that's right, the general copper on the beat only has an extendible baton, pepper spray, a pair of handcuffs and, that most important of tools...........a functioning brain that isn't paralysed by fear and propaganda.

So much for your "only criminals will have guns" bullshit.

So please continue tying yourselves up in knots about types of ammo, types of guns, etc etc etc etc........................while ALL of your peer nations go ahead and ban guns and make their citizens safer by doing so.

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Scribbles · 36-40, F

@room101 Well said.

There are alot of delusional Americans who have never lived a life that didn't include guns as a part of the basic idea of self defense, etc.

I don't think they can imagine a country that doesn't have an overwhelming amount of guns. A country in which citizens aren't packing a gun. Where you can't easily purchase or get a license to carry. A country whose parents,teachers, and children are scared of mass shootings and doesn't practice active shooter response training. In which teachers are more security guard and jailor then teacher.

I honestly think anybody in America who believe they NEED a gun, need the opportunity to live in any of the more then 100 another countries where firearms are neither a problem or an answer to a problem.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

What about the Ukrainians for example being glad at this point that guns were not banned there? @room101

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

It’s too late for the US because of the huge number of guns in circulation. Probably more guns than bicycles. I’d be on board with there being NONE however there is no good they all go poof therein lies the problem. The people who should most not have a gun would never participate in a program to remove them all. Good hearted people would and end up and a further disadvantage. That ship has sailed. @room101 @Scribbles

dakotaviper · 56-60, M

@room101 your Mistake here is thinking that the USA is exactly like the UK.
We're not and we had to prove that twice by defeating you in a War.

MasterLee · 56-60, M

@room101 in America we have to compare pre crime bill to after. Before 'gun free zones' ...

room101 · 51-55, M

@dakotaviper I wish you gun fetishists would stop with this bullshit about defeating the Brits. At the time of your so called War of independence, there was no such thing as America or Americans. It was essentially one group of Brits fighting another group of Brits. And your group won because of the help it received from one of England's oldest enemies ie France. You literally gave the French a huge swath of land that ran right through the middle of your emerging Republic for their help.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Perhaps at the most the French were “lent” the use of some land for awhile. At the time of the revolution what is now the Us had citizens from all parts of Europe and elsewhere and]as well as its indigenous population. @room101

room101 · 51-55, M

@jackjjackson

Yes, you loaned some land to the French for a while and then paid $15,000,000.00 to get it back. Tell me did trump negotiate that deal😂😂😂

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Peanuts. As was the Alaska purchase from Russia. What compensation did the UK provide India for the abuse it brought there? @room101

room101 · 51-55, M

@jackjjackson Nice "whataboutism" that fails.........as usual. My comment about the Louisiana land purchase was specifically related to your nonsense about your outrarmed colonists beating the suprioror armed forces of Great Britain. They didn't. They [b]literally[/b] had ship loads of help.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

So what? England lost. All is fair in love and war. The Louisiana purchase area has been a gray part of the great country known as the US for a long time. In the meantime the UK is shrinking. The loss of Hong Kong is bad for all of us. @room101

room101 · 51-55, M

@jackjjackson Hong Kong was actually a lease deal which expired in 1997. The UK is shrinking in so far as it is no longer an imperialistic nation. But the British Commonwealth continues to grow.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

What does commonwealth mean anyways. How does it benefit the UK?
@room101

room101 · 51-55, M

[@jackjjackson ]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

That was kind of lazy. LOL. Anyways it seems like a lot of money being spent and time used with no actual benefits. @room101

room101 · 51-55, M

@jackjjackson Lazy maybe but as you can see, it's a rather complicated and detailed system. To my mind, particularly coming from a former British colony and having direct family members that fought for independence from the Brits, The Commonwealth has two main benefits for the UK. Amazing cultural diversity available to all, and influence without compromising the autonomy of the member states.

dakotaviper · 56-60, M

@room101 you don't know anything about history do you. The Louisiana Purchase was bought from France who took it from Spain. Not the USA. We did buy that Land from France.

dakotaviper · 56-60, M

@room101 So the Commonwealth is expanding. How?
From recent events, it's detracting. I do believe that the Bahamas are leaving.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

Is there anything that makes traveling easier? I really like that we have different viewpoints on virtually everything however I virtually always get some useful unintended information and you’re a pleasant guy who isn’t an ideologue. I can’t stand that and I don’t know wh they do that to themselves. @room101

room101 · 51-55, M

@jackjjackson Not travelling specifically no. A passport is enough and the British Passport is still one of the most respected travel documents in the world. And I've visited more countries than I can remember. The only times that I've had even a hint of a problem is when I've gone to a Middle Eastern country and the customs officials have noticed visa stamps from other Middle Eastern countries that they do not "approve" of. Back in 2006 I took my mother to visit some of the holy sites in Jerusalem. The Israeli Customs official saw that I had a number of Egyptian Visas in my passport. She double checked that my passport was British and then asked:

"are you a diver?"

"Yes, I am", I replied

and fished out (pun intended) my BSAC diver qualification from my wallet and showed it to her.

"you should dive in Eilat"

"I have, quite a few times............still prefer the deeper waters of Egypts Red Sea dive sites."

She shrugged and waved us through.

Being from a commonwealth country does help one in obtaining citizenship in the UK. However, recent immigration laws are attempting to close that little loophole.

room101 · 51-55, M

@dakotaviper The commonwealth was formed in 1931 with five member states (inc. the UK). There are now 54 member states.

Do you have a link or a source of any kind vis-a-vis The Bahamas leaving The Commonwealth. I can't find anything on google🤷‍♂️

dakotaviper · 56-60, M

@room101 I guess you didn't search the Right sources then. I did and also found the following on Google.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/28/caribbean-monarchy-queen-republic-reparations-jamaica-belize-protest/

https://www.opindia.com/2022/04/six-caribbean-countries-to-become-republics-by-leaving-british-monarchy/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-59470843

SteelHands · 61-69, M

To the brit that said the French fought the American revolution for us.

Your king hired "hessian" mercenaries. That was a considerable part of his ground army.

We French were already here. The land in the middle of the continent was claimed and mapped by my boy, Padre Marquette and claimed for France. It only made sense to fight against king "hor-hey" and after things got back to semi normal to relegate its representation and gain its protection to the US Congress.

See xyz sir, if you have the sway to read our agreement. Which I seriously doubt.

I would own north Dakota today if it were otherwise. Plebe.

room101 · 51-55, M

@dakotaviper None of which explicitly means that the Commonwealth is shrinking!

room101 · 51-55, M

@SteelHands Your boy? Were you French at the time and now American?

IF you had the sway (WTF does that even mean?) to read the context of the discussion that you've dived into, you would see that I am responding to the very tired old bullshit that the Yanks (who didn't even exist at the the time) kicked GB's arse.

Also, if you had the sway (still no idea WTF that means) to read a history book you would see that King George III was against military intervention but had to capitulate to the desire of Parliament. So no, you were not fighting against King "Hor-hey", you were fighting against the British Parliament, who didn't want to lose the cash cow that "America" had become.

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