How hard are some minimum firearm rules

For example:

Have red flag laws
Raise gun and ammo age for purchase to 21
Limit clip sizes
Have some type of qualification in place in order to buy semi auto weapons
Restrict types of ammo. What is being used is more lethal than legitimately needed for sport and even home protection

These seem like no brainers that infringe on a minimum scale

It’s not like every American can get cleared by qualified therapist whatever that is to be a safe gun owner. Can’t make people go. Quality of therapists vary wildly and they have biases. Who pays them? How much? Even if cleared today the person could be a good faker like the polygraph passing liars or have an overnight or later change and become a nut

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Budwick · 70-79, M

I disagree with most of that.
Raising the age for ownership is OK, but I seem to recall one of the school shooters took the gun from his parents or grandparents. Whack-a-doodles will find a way.
The ammo restriction is not practical. Military and police have the same 9 mm handgun I have, for example. AK-47 is basically a .22 LR - a very common caliber.

Making oddball calibers for military makes acquisition of ordinance a new problem.

Every one of the shooters has had whack-a-doodle history. The history can't be reported or sent to anyone because of regulations to protect privacy rights. And the violent time bombs walk the streets with the rest of us.

They used to confine crazy people for their own protection and that of society. Get patients the treatment they need before releasing them.

It's the violent people creating the problem. Not the guns.

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@Budwick Yeah but if you think about it, you would have to know someone with a gun to steal one in the first place, sometimes not everyone has access which is why kids when they turn 18 can get one. I think waiting until 21 makes sense, they should be adults anyways.

Though I agree that violent people are the issue, there's something to be said about someone who, no matter how bad they have it, actually wants to harm innocent people. I been through stuff in my life and I couldn't imagine just doing that to anyone. Though not going to lie, I could fully self defend myself and not feel an ounce of remorse which is probably another subject entirely.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@SatanBurger [quote]I think waiting until 21 makes sense, they should be adults anyways.[/quote]

THAT is the sentence I understand and agree with.

carpediem · 61-69, M

@Budwick I agree with that as well. BUT.... at age 18 people are in the military, vote and are considered adults in many ways. I'm not opposed to restrictions to buy weapons and they should be tough, but not to punish a law abiding citizen the right to protect him/her self from over reaching government and other criminal elements.

Discussion needs to take place when cooler heads prevail. I am opposed to emotional decisions whether this issue or others.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@carpediem [quote] at age 18 people are in the military,.[/quote]

Agreed, but in the military they are trained in weapon use, it's not the same thing.
The age thing is not something I'm 'married' to.
But, there's a lot of growing up that goes on between 18 and 21.

carpediem · 61-69, M

@Budwick Good point on the training. Perhaps training should be a requirement for gun purchases going forward.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@carpediem I would think there's got to be a way to accomplish that without giving gun owners fits.

carpediem · 61-69, M

@Budwick Focus needs to be on fixing the issue. I am sure we're headed for an executive order that will serve to further divide the country. Old Joe is good at that.

dakotaviper · 56-60, M

@Budwick who trained you how to use a gun and at what age? I remember back when I was in 7th grade in the late 1970's that we had a class in school for a quarter that taught Gun Safety. The Instructors were Conservation Officers (Game Wardens in some States) and the State Police.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@dakotaviper In my case my Grandmother taught me the basics of rifle safety and usage. I joined cadets when I was 13 and was instructed on the military safe practices regarding rifles and handguns. I grew up around guns and always considered them to be tools of the trade. If I wanted to kill an animal I often used a rifle. It was a very human way to kill. One shot to the head and the animal was dead. Much more humane than slitting its throat or chopping off its head.