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The NRA supports Ghost Guns. Do you support unregulated, untraceable Ghost Guns?

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Ghost Guns are cheap, unregulated kits that can build a gun that can be sold to teenagers, not traced and are so cheap and simple that anyone can buy them, build them and kill with them.

They are plastic so can be brought into sporting events, concerts, planes and schools undetected by metal detectors.

The NRA does not support any regulations on these.
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wildbill83 · 36-40, M
amazing how uneducated people are on the subject of so called "ghost guns"...

1 - they're not simply "kits" that you buy online that are complete to assemble; they're either incomplete kits that require parts that aren't easy to acquire (sear, trigger group, etc.); or they're partially milled receivers that require professional gunsmithing jigs and tools to complete

2 - while parts kits don't have to be registered (they're not a firearm), a complete functioning firearm does; regardless where it came from or how it was assembled/built. someone with knowledge on firearm workings and access to/experience with lathe, mill, and various other metal working tools could produce their own complete firearm/prototype... but it still has to be registered. Same for suppressors, easy to make... but still have to be registered.

3 - they're not plastic; while many external/structural parts can be replaced with polymer; internal mechanical parts and those that experience a lot of heat and friction cannot (barrel, firing pin, springs, etc.). A completely plastic gun either simply wouldn't work (most likely) or would blow up in your face...

Given the time, expense, and knowledge required for parts kit/prototype firearms, it's pretty idiotic to assume that it's done solely for criminal intent

My uncle runs a gunshop (ffl dealer), and has been gunsmithing for over 40 years. He's had all kinds of customers with parts kits/incompletes go through his shop. Most takes months, in many cases years to search for and purchase all the required parts (blueprints/diagrams for much of the older stuff are impossible to find, or are extremely rare and come at great expense, so reproducing certain parts is out of the question); after the process is all said and done, we're talking thousands of dollars in expenses, even more for an older automatics (stens, grease guns, mp40s, mg42s, etc.)
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
But if you really want to complain about untraceable firearms, turn your blame to obama and his lackey Eric Holder & the ATF...

they managed to "lose" a few thousand (that we know of) guns to mexican gangs/drug cartels

Or biden...

whose disasterous pullout of Afghanistan left the taliban better armed than many of our allies (nearly 1.5 million small arms, mostly m16/m4's)
@wildbill83 Thank you for posting the facts about ghost guns. Couldn't believe the misinformation from the OP.
DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@wildbill83 “Ghost guns, which include firearms assembled from kits or made with 3D printers, are untraceable by law enforcement and often undetectable by metal detectors.” Giffords Law Center
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@DailyFlash [quote]Giffords Law Center[/quote] aka, a bunch of biased leftist desk jockeys from california that wouldn't know their butthole from a hole in the ground...

even a multi-million dollar metal/sinter 3d printer can't produce a finished fully functional firearm

and as stated before, you can't print a functional totally plastic handgun with a home 3d printer either...
plastic filament layers don't even have a 1/100th of the rigidity of rolled steel, and they propose that it's possible to fire a bullet with 30,000psi+ of case pressure through a plastic barrel? 🤣

I'd certainly like to see them try... then laugh my ass off when it explodes and removes their fingers...
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@DailyFlash Apparently Giffords Law Center doesn't know what they're talking about either!