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wildbill83 · 36-40, M
amazing how uneducated people are on the subject of so called "ghost guns"...
1 - they're not simply "kits" that you buy online that are complete to assemble; they're either incomplete kits that require parts that aren't easy to acquire (sear, trigger group, etc.); or they're partially milled receivers that require professional gunsmithing jigs and tools to complete
2 - while parts kits don't have to be registered (they're not a firearm), a complete functioning firearm does; regardless where it came from or how it was assembled/built. someone with knowledge on firearm workings and access to/experience with lathe, mill, and various other metal working tools could produce their own complete firearm/prototype... but it still has to be registered. Same for suppressors, easy to make... but still have to be registered.
3 - they're not plastic; while many external/structural parts can be replaced with polymer; internal mechanical parts and those that experience a lot of heat and friction cannot (barrel, firing pin, springs, etc.). A completely plastic gun either simply wouldn't work (most likely) or would blow up in your face...
Given the time, expense, and knowledge required for parts kit/prototype firearms, it's pretty idiotic to assume that it's done solely for criminal intent
My uncle runs a gunshop (ffl dealer), and has been gunsmithing for over 40 years. He's had all kinds of customers with parts kits/incompletes go through his shop. Most takes months, in many cases years to search for and purchase all the required parts (blueprints/diagrams for much of the older stuff are impossible to find, or are extremely rare and come at great expense, so reproducing certain parts is out of the question); after the process is all said and done, we're talking thousands of dollars in expenses, even more for an older automatics (stens, grease guns, mp40s, mg42s, etc.)
1 - they're not simply "kits" that you buy online that are complete to assemble; they're either incomplete kits that require parts that aren't easy to acquire (sear, trigger group, etc.); or they're partially milled receivers that require professional gunsmithing jigs and tools to complete
2 - while parts kits don't have to be registered (they're not a firearm), a complete functioning firearm does; regardless where it came from or how it was assembled/built. someone with knowledge on firearm workings and access to/experience with lathe, mill, and various other metal working tools could produce their own complete firearm/prototype... but it still has to be registered. Same for suppressors, easy to make... but still have to be registered.
3 - they're not plastic; while many external/structural parts can be replaced with polymer; internal mechanical parts and those that experience a lot of heat and friction cannot (barrel, firing pin, springs, etc.). A completely plastic gun either simply wouldn't work (most likely) or would blow up in your face...
Given the time, expense, and knowledge required for parts kit/prototype firearms, it's pretty idiotic to assume that it's done solely for criminal intent
My uncle runs a gunshop (ffl dealer), and has been gunsmithing for over 40 years. He's had all kinds of customers with parts kits/incompletes go through his shop. Most takes months, in many cases years to search for and purchase all the required parts (blueprints/diagrams for much of the older stuff are impossible to find, or are extremely rare and come at great expense, so reproducing certain parts is out of the question); after the process is all said and done, we're talking thousands of dollars in expenses, even more for an older automatics (stens, grease guns, mp40s, mg42s, etc.)
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
But if you really want to complain about untraceable firearms, turn your blame to obama and his lackey Eric Holder & the ATF...
they managed to "lose" a few thousand (that we know of) guns to mexican gangs/drug cartels
Or biden...
whose disasterous pullout of Afghanistan left the taliban better armed than many of our allies (nearly 1.5 million small arms, mostly m16/m4's)
they managed to "lose" a few thousand (that we know of) guns to mexican gangs/drug cartels
Or biden...
whose disasterous pullout of Afghanistan left the taliban better armed than many of our allies (nearly 1.5 million small arms, mostly m16/m4's)
BizSuitStacy · M
@wildbill83 Thank you for posting the facts about ghost guns. Couldn't believe the misinformation from the OP.
DailyFlash · 56-60, M
@wildbill83 “Ghost guns, which include firearms assembled from kits or made with 3D printers, are untraceable by law enforcement and often undetectable by metal detectors.” Giffords Law Center
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@DailyFlash [quote]Giffords Law Center[/quote] aka, a bunch of biased leftist desk jockeys from california that wouldn't know their butthole from a hole in the ground...
even a multi-million dollar metal/sinter 3d printer can't produce a finished fully functional firearm
and as stated before, you can't print a functional totally plastic handgun with a home 3d printer either...
plastic filament layers don't even have a 1/100th of the rigidity of rolled steel, and they propose that it's possible to fire a bullet with 30,000psi+ of case pressure through a plastic barrel? 🤣
I'd certainly like to see them try... then laugh my ass off when it explodes and removes their fingers...
even a multi-million dollar metal/sinter 3d printer can't produce a finished fully functional firearm
and as stated before, you can't print a functional totally plastic handgun with a home 3d printer either...
plastic filament layers don't even have a 1/100th of the rigidity of rolled steel, and they propose that it's possible to fire a bullet with 30,000psi+ of case pressure through a plastic barrel? 🤣
I'd certainly like to see them try... then laugh my ass off when it explodes and removes their fingers...
fanuc2013 · 51-55, F
@DailyFlash Apparently Giffords Law Center doesn't know what they're talking about either!