Cars kill people. Ban cars? No. Require liability insurance for guns.

No, but liability insurance on guns, like cars, might work out very well. I imagine the liability insurance on a 22 or a hunting rifle would be peanuts compared to the liability insurance on an assault rifle which would probably be prohibitive. Let the free markets decide.

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GrinNude · 61-69, C

To all who say nothing can be done. This is mostly an American issue. Children aren't being slaughtered on this scale in the rest of the world. Only in the USA and in Ukraine.

MrBrownstone · 46-50, M

@GrinNude What law would you create that would prevent it?

GrinNude · 61-69, C

@MrBrownstone I'm suggesting liability insurance requirement at the time of gun sale. Insurance on hunting rifles would be cheap and on assault rifles would be much higher. I believe this would make a dent. I will settle for gradual improvement. I am definitely not in the do-nothing camp. The status quo is not acceptable to me.

MrBrownstone · 46-50, M

@GrinNude How does that work for illegal sales?

SW-User

@GrinNude last line is complete bullshit. Many European countries, with far stricter gun laws, have much higher mass shooting casulties proportionately. Much higher are the liberals beloved France and Norway

The only relevant issue is what's creating these deranged minds lately. Guns have always been around

HarrietteSpeedy · 61-69, F

@SW-User Which European country has much higher mass shooting casualties? I can think of one instance in Norway by a right-wing lunatic. They are incredibly rare in the UK - about one every ten years- and the only mass school shooting was in 1996.

SW-User

@HarrietteSpeedy

Norway, Finland, France, and Switzerland have at least 49 percent higher rates of murder from mass public shootings than the United States. Indeed, France’s rate is 48.9 percent higher than that of the United States

HarrietteSpeedy · 61-69, F

@SW-User From where do you get these figures?

SW-User

@HarrietteSpeedy Wall St Journal

HarrietteSpeedy · 61-69, F

@SW-User The murder rate in France is 1.3 per 100,000 . 6.3 per 100,000 in USA. 0.6 in Norway; 1.6 in Finland. 0.5 in Switzerland. 1.1 in Scotland.

HarrietteSpeedy · 61-69, F

@SW-User Well; the Wall Street Journal is mistaken. The western world is shocked at the high numbers of mass shootings in the USA. That country is viewed as the most violent in the developed world.

GrinNude · 61-69, C

@MrBrownstone many of these mass murders are committed by people who bought guns legally. Are you saying we should add no safety equipment to automobiles unless it can stop every accident?

MrBrownstone · 46-50, M

@GrinNude Source?

SomeMichGuy · M

@MrBrownstone As one data point, the guy who killed these children and adults in Texas bought two guns legally...but you know this if you weren't "under a rock".