A few anomalies regarding the school shooting.

The shooter was teased for being poor. He was driving a $70,000,00 pickup and had a couple of very expensive rifles as well as wearing body armor. He shot his grandmother over an unpaid phone bill, drove away, got his truck stuck and started shooting at a funeral home. After 12 minutes of shooting at the funeral home he crossed the street and entered the school through an open door. He then barricaded himself in a room where he killed the kids and teachers. The cops gathered outside and did not try to enter the school because they said they didn't have a ballistic shield. Many parents gathered and urged the police to act. Federal marshals detained several parents. Other parents broke into the school and brought out their children. After an hour or so some Border Guards arrived, stormed the school and killed the shooter. The border guard who entered the room and killed the shooter was grazed by a bullet from the shooter. The bullet went through the border agent's baseball cap and opened a wound in the agent's scalp.

A few questions:
1) How did the shooter afford the truck, rifles and body armor if he couldn't pay his phone bill?
2) Where were the police when he was shooting at the funeral home?
3) Why were the doors of the school still open when there were shots being fired across the street from the school?
4) Why didn't the police do anything?
5) Why were there federal marshals there?
6) Why were the police and federal marshals arresting parents?
7) Why were the border agents the ones to enter the building?
8) If lack of protection kept the cops out why did the border guards go in without adequate protection?

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JesseInTX · 51-55, M

A few questions:
1) How did the shooter afford the truck, rifles and body armor if he couldn't pay his phone bill?
2) Where were the police when he was shooting at the funeral home?
3) Why were the doors of the school still open when there were shots being fired across the street from the school?
4) Why didn't the police do anything?
5) Why were there federal marshals there?
6) Why were the police and federal marshals arresting parents?
7) Why were the border agents the ones to enter the building?
8) If lack of protection kept the cops out why did the border guards go in without adequate protection?

1- that is still under investigation and takes time to definitively say. The shooter did not have a drivers license and the truck was registered to his grandparents.
2- they were on the way and the initial report was they were responding to a traffic accident, not an active shooter.
3- biggest question of all is why the teacher left the door open as she retreated back into the school. It violates a State law put in place after the Santa Fe HS shooting 4 years ago.
4- there were 19 officers from various agencies in the hallway of the school within minutes of him entering. The incident commander determined it was no longer an active shooter scenario and was a barricaded subject. A decision he’ll have to live with the rest of his life. The officers outside established a perimeter to prevent escape and keep others from entering an active scene.
5- Uvalde PD has about 50 officers. They put a call out for any law enforcement to assist. US Marshals came from San Antonio (80 miles away) and Del Rio (60 miles away). Border Patrol agents are stationed in Uvalde and live in the community. Uvalde is 45 miles from the border.
6- no parent was arrested. That’s a complete falsehood.
7- Members of a BORTAC team along with officers from other agencies entered the classroom and killed the suspect. Officers from various agencies had already entered the school.
8- the BORTAC members had a ballistic shield when they entered the classroom and killed the suspect.

There are many other questions that need to be, and will be answered. An investigation like this is very complex. Everyone is angry and rightfully so that 19 kids and 2 teachers were killed. We all need to take a step back and let the Texas Rangers and the FBI finish the investigation and not inflame an already emotional and volatile situation.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@JesseInTX Tell the parents put in handcuffs and pepper sprayed. This was beyond mere incompetence. The police had been undergoing active shooter training for the last two years. To say that it was just an error in judgment is beyond the pale. Any person that is that incapable to misreading the situation that long is either in on it or too stupid to have got that high in the ranks. AN HOUR while multiple phone calls coming in from people in the room??????

JesseInTX · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 no parent was pepper sprayed. That’s just a flat out falsehood. Period. 2 parents were detained for attempting to enter an active scene. Every agency in Texas goes through active shooter training and there is a process to transfer from active shooter to barricaded subject and/or hostage situation. You can also transition back to active shooter. We don’t know what information the incident commander had or didn’t have at the time. I take great offense to even the suggestion that he was “in on it”. You weren’t there, I wasn’t there. We don’t know what he knew at the time. And neither of us, or anyone else here, has ever been put in a situation like that. So we don’t know how we would handle that. Let the investigation play out.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@JesseInTX According to a parent in the report I heard at the time he was pepper sprayed when he was trying to see his child after the incident was over. I didn't make that up. The parents were arrested. Arrest comes from the French word Arret which means STOP. The commander was either too incompetent to have got that high in the ranks or in on it. There is no way he could have stood by his initial decision based on the evidence presented to him on site. Not to mention the FACT that he knew there were gunshots in the room. It is more than likely children were injured and possibly dying in that room! This was known. His decision may have cost lives that had the shooter been taken out and the children treated some of the now dead may be alive. Sorry to burst your bubble but either Uvalde has the most incompetent cops in the world or this was a false flag operation designed to get people to demand the removal of guns. This is not just a bad decision by an honest cop trying his best to do his job.

JesseInTX · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 you read or heard a report and that report is false. Period. Again no parent was arrested. 2 were detained and released. There’s a big difference in being arrested and detained here in the US and in Texas. There was a 35 minute gap in the last shot fired and when the police went in and killed the suspect. And after the 19 officers entered the building the only shots fired were sporadic and at the door or wall of the classroom where the officers were staged. That is on video. We have the gift of hindsight. They did not and neither did the incident commander. Director McGraw of Texas DPS said it was the wrong decision but also said that with the benefit of hindsight. Yes his decision cost lives and he will live with that the rest of his life. One Uvalde police officer lost his daughter, a Uvalde County deputy sheriff lost his daughter and a Border Patrol agent lost his granddaughter. You honestly believe he wasn’t trying to do the best he could based off the information he had at the time?

You have your opinion of what happened and I disagree. I’m going to choose to let the investigation play out. I doubt you’ve ever been anywhere near Uvalde. I’m 3 1/2 hours away from there and have spent a lot of time there. I’ve talked to people there since this happened and they are tired of people using this for whatever agenda they have, they’re sick of the media looking for a story. They’re sick of inflammatory rhetoric and conspiracy theories. They’re mourning.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@JesseInTX If you think your account is true...... Yeah good luck with that. The inflammatory rhetoric is all on the left side of the equation. BAN GUNS!!!! Yeah stick it in your ear. If you think having a cop who stood down while his kids were being killed excuses anything.

JesseInTX · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 the left does that after every shooting. That’s not anything new. You’re inflaming the situation by spreading falsehoods based off “reports”.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@JesseInTX You are the one that is refusing to see that the government of the USA has gone rogue and is actively killing its own citizens and trying to remain in power by disarming its citizens. Every mass shooting in the US has some government activity in it that makes one go hmmmm. Standing down in the face of an active shooter with a bunch of school kids being his target????? REALY!!!!! This whole thing is so beyond the pale that if the scales aren't removed from your eyes you have your eyes fully closed on purpose. No one wants to think ill of anyone but when the evidence is this overwhelming there is no other conclusion that can be drawn. NO ONE can be that incompetent. NO ONE!

JesseInTX · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 you’re a freaking nut job. There is no evidence to support what you’re rambling about.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@JesseInTX Actually there is mountains of information that backs up what I just said. You choose not to see it. Not really my problem. BTW how many jabs did you take before you realized the government was lying to you about its safety and efficacy?

JesseInTX · 51-55, M

@hippyjoe1955 there is no evidence to back up a single thing you’ve said in regards to what happened in Uvalde. You’re just as bad as people on the extreme left.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@JesseInTX So says someone whose eyes are firmly closed. Too funny!

boudinMan · 61-69, M

@JesseInTX also, if he didn't have a driver's license, how was he able to legally purchase a gun?