China Air Crash

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Go to about 1:15 in the video, and then watch closely, as they show the video of the plane, falling out of the sky, right before it hit the mountain.

Not sure how to interpret this. The plane looks intact, no missing pieces, but it's coming down super fast (nearly 25,000 feet in less than 2 minutes), in a nearly vertical position.

Planes don't do that, unless they're piloted to point down vertically. Based on this short video, and the rapid descent, they probably hit 0g, 20 seconds into the descent, and stayed there for the duration.

What kind of malfunction, would do that? If the engines had quit, the plane would still fly (its wings will carry it, horizontally) for a distance, until it eventually loses lift, and glides into the first obstacle.

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Gusman · 61-69, M

At first viewing it looks as though deliberate piloting was involved 🥺

Carla · 61-69, F

Yeah, that's a nose dive.
And scary fast.

thedreamer1975 · 46-50, F

Maybe the pilot had a death wish

Pherick · 41-45, M

Yep even with that bad footage, its still hard to imagine how that was anything but the pilot pushing the nose down and "aiming" for the ground.

markansas

pilots only take off and land the rest is on auto pilot. myself with every thing in this world getting hacked. if that might have happened mid flight. and if that is so wait till we have more self driving cars. just a thought and not a good one. sorry.

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this would be a easy way to kill someone and not be tracked.

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Northwest · M

@jackson55 Flight controls (rods, cables, pulleys, and chains that control flaps, winglets, aileron, etc), used to have mechanical controls, that provide physical feedback to pilots, allowing them to "feel" wind speed, angle of attack, turns, etc.

Similar to what might expect in a mechanical steering wheel in a race car.

Airbus introduced fly-by-wire, which replaced mechanical controls, and pads. Kind of like replacing the old mechanical computer mouse, with a pad, you move your fingers across.

Boeing followed suit, in 1994. Although I believe that Boeing retains mechanical backup systems, while the Airbus did not, but that changed following an Air France flight to Brazil, where the pilot and co-pilot did not realize they were working against each other.

Fly-by-wire, however, does NOT mean flying remotely. That's still not an option that's installed on any commercial airplanes. The "what if's" prevent that from happening.

jackson55 · M

@Northwest Boeing jets still have mechanical control. And can switch off the auto pilot and fly the airplane. A Airbus to some degree. With the auto pilot off the computer will control bank angle, pitch and yaw. No one knows for sure yet, but I belive the pilot flew the plane into the ground. As airspeed increases so does lift. The aircraft has some ability to correct pitch as airspeed increases. I believe the pilot had to keep the nose pointed down.

Northwest · M

@jackson55

Boeing jets still have mechanical control.

Yes, this is what I said.

Although I believe that Boeing retains mechanical backup systems

All commercial jets have the option of switching the autopilot off.

The aircraft has some ability to correct pitch as airspeed increases.

Yes, when the autopilot is set to on (standard flight mode) and a specific altitude is entered.

jackson55 · M

Airliners don’t do that. It was flown into the ground. As speed increases so does lift. The pilot had to keep the nose down.

plungesponge · 41-45, M

This isn't another 737 max is it?

jackson55 · M

@plungesponge No, 7 yo 737- 800.

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