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So the infrastructure bill hasnt passed? I thought it was good to go?

I hope if it passes they make an allowance for the arts.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-real-danger-infrastructure-reconciliation-bills

Wow they might start using electric buses. Cool? It sounds good to me if they are proven safe. Does electricity depend on nuclear power? I mean, obvious there's solar but where else does electricity come from? (A little off topic but oh well, was just thinking about the electric busses.)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/infrastructure-bill-could-jump-start-electric-school-bus-business-11631278800

Anyone want to chit-chat?
Electric anything does not work well at all in cold climates. Manufacturing the batteries is extremely toxic (which is why they’re made in China). Recycling the batteries is costly (they’ll end up in landfills or the bottom of the ocean leaching out heavy metals like nickle, lead, cadmium and lithium). For long distance trips they are impractical. As more people buy electric cars and start charging them at home, utilities will be forced to raise everyone’s rates in order to upgrade the grid. All in all, electric cars are a very bad idea.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
[@1140188,Candie] depleted nuclear fuel not fit for large fission installations can still be used at a lower btu range for smaller power units.

There have been more credible people than you might imagine trying to point these things out before now.

That's where the problem is. Anyone credible ends up dead.
Candie · F
[@377644,SteelHands] well, there's no disposing of it anyway then?
SteelHands · 61-69, M
[@1140188,Candie] Depleted fuel is used in making extremely deadly artillery and projectiles.

Some of it is placed in underground storage but the bulk of it is weaponized.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
The power companies right now are clear cutting entire forests and keeping it top secret so they can claim to be burning 100% renewable fuels.

Solar Farms and windmill fields are at or nearing that critical 20 year lifespan to replace window.

Without another massive flood of funds, about three times as much as last time from government, cleaning up the garbage and putting back new isn't going to happen. They're as total losses as public transport.

All expense, no benefit.
We sold China the best and cleanest bus technology ... then outlawed it in the US

Buses which run on a engine the size of a lawnmower ... using fluid reservoirs to recapture energy lost in deceleration.

Which could run a week without refueling.
Whoa. WTF? [@6757,questionWeaver]
[@604557,stratosranger] It was the simplest concept ... it recaptured 85% of all energy during deceleration ... meaning it could operate with an engine 19X smaller and still out accelerate a current bus.

The French outlawed it too ... Renault produced a 180 MPG car ... and the EURO-zone outlawed its manufacture.

The lesson is "do not not go against liberal socialist thinking"
[@6757,questionWeaver] Wow. That’s sad as hell
carpediem · 61-69, M
The used to have electric buses decades ago. Everyone was thrilled when they were gone.

1490wayb · 56-60, M
[@1140188,Candie] in 90's hydrogen was going to be the fuel of future yet after 3 decades we are just beginning to transition to electric very sad
carpediem · 61-69, M
[@1140188,Candie] Good question. I don't believe it was. He did ok with it.
[@1140188,Candie] the battery powered buses they are proposing have batteries ... 2 tons per bus and can run about 3 hours
I do not think the infrastructure bill will be passed in the next 360 days.

Congress is already bored with it.

They now have 5 HUGE bills to pass in the next 45 days and time to only consider 1

Congress usually over promises and under-delivers.
carpediem · 61-69, M
[@6757,questionWeaver] Thank God for under delivers when the Dems are in charge.
[@112526,carpediem] true to that
1490wayb · 56-60, M
we have finally depleted and used up our coal sources, biggest fuel now is natural gas, a little cleaner. nuclear is expensive and powwr plants are very old and obsolete. need solar and wind on each building\home not millions in prarie\desert and ocean with even more ugly power lines. also the flora\weeds\vines have enormous energy hidden inside
carpediem · 61-69, M
[@1144409,1490wayb] What? We have LOTS of coal in the US
SteelHands · 61-69, M
[@112526,carpediem] Coal for energy in newer designed coal burning plants is virtually pollution free.

Clean burn technology plants is what our tax money should be funding for our industrial independence.

The by product of coal mining is highly economically relevant.

That byproduct is called coke. It is a crucial element in the making of a vast variety of high quality steels and alloys from raw ore.

The claim that the steel and oil states voted in the Dems is preposterous.

 
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