Why the lessons of 9/11 are wasted

‘No one seems aware any longer that there’s such a thing as a hostile external power that poses a graver threat to our existence than in-house systemic racism or micro-aggressions. In the Biden administration, our generals have been fixated not on international threats, or even on getting our troops safely out of Afghanistan, but on rooting out “white [hate] rage” in our own soldiers. Biden himself has encouraged our intelligence community to switch their focus from Islamist terrorism to domestic extremists on the right…..The lessons of 9/11 are wasted on us’ (Lionel Shriver - Telegraph U.K.)

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mikeylyksit · 41-45, M

OK, from the American perspective. Most Americans (note I did not say POLITICIANS) agree on this view. We (the American people) are totally fed up with always being expected to play "world police". If our politicians paid any attention at all to the PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT, we would have almost zero United States military members posted anywhere outside of the Continental United States. TO me, the message of 9/11 is that our forces were poorly deployed...protecting all the other nations in the world when (gasp) they should have been guarding NYC.

If I had dictator powers to make things happen just by saying so, I would pull ALL United States forces back from outside the United States and deploy them to CLOSE the Southern Border. When the Southern Border is secure, some of the troops would be re-deployed to round up illegal errrrrr "undocumented migrants" and deport them. And yes I know there are tens of millions of them to deport. So it should keep our troops busy for quite a long time...

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@mikeylyksit Nobody ever asked you to be the world police. That was a self imposed title to justify an empire. And if most Americans are against the empire where is the responsibility to vote these people out?

And blaming brown people in the border areas is not going to change anything either, And where are you getting these inflated numbers from?

Oh and Clinton tried that in the 90s. The deport everyone approach failed miserably.

mikeylyksit · 41-45, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow We can't vote our way out of the mess. The problem is, we don't have anybody to vote for who will take a strong stand for enforcing immigration laws. So we always have a choice to vote (if we choose to) for somebody who we already know won't get the job done. Sigh...

Oh, and American's are not into building empires. American politicians are into that, but American politicians seem to revel in doing the exact opposite of what most of the voters want them to do...

Who said anything about brown people in border areas? No matter the color of their skin or how they get in the country, they spread everywhere. EVERYWHERE. My numbers aren't inflated. They are probably low. The last official count was about 12 million, increasing by about 1 mill a year for 14 years at this point. But that's the OFFICIAL estimate. So the actual figure is probably two or three times that. I'd be shocked if there are less than 50,000,000 undocumented migrants in the United States right now. And in 2021? In 2021 alone, the border is wide open. In 2021 ALONE the figure might increase by another 10 mill or so...

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@mikeylyksit This has nothing to do with immigration. This has to do with playing at empire. And sorry but democracy is not a spectator sport. And it is also a bullshit cop out to pretend red and blue are the only options.

And again, if you vote them in and don't do anything that is consent to build empire.

Who said that? You did! You were the one who decided to change the subject to scapegoating immigrants and refugees on the southern border.

12 and 50 million? 😂 And I see you have zero sources for your fear mongering and scapegoating. But change the subject to make it about blaming other poor brown people. That is the right wing way.

I noticed you also completely ignored the fact that your immigration policy prescription has already been done and failed miserably.