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4meAndyou , thanks, I really do appreciate the ideas. I've lived here for 40 years so I've had lots of time to come to an understanding about the deer. I've decided to be philosophical. They were here long before white man was, I'm sort of squatting on their land. Putting up with ticks and deer eating my plants is a small price to pay to live in such beauty among woods, waterfalls, my pond, creeks and fields.