Tbones save lives

@Nitedoc I used to be a member of a Raw Foods group on meetup.com in Oahu. They have a mix of people who want cheap food foraged free off the land (these people included wild chicken hunters), but you also had the liberal spiritualists who found their salvation in living a very liberal vegan lifestyle. I even sat through a seminar funded by a liberal geoup there that was militantly against egg esting, calling it the most dangerous food in terms of cholesteol outside of tibetian yak brains, and wanted everyone to make long Samoan turds by eating Iron Root- because apparently anthropologists were running around during the colonial period and measured the length of everyone's turds around the world, and the Samoans had the longest feom eating Iron Roots (lots of fiber), but once they started eating canned meats thier poop lengths radically shrunk. And people in NY and Chigago had some of the shortest turd lengths in the world (gasp).

I've also seen pagan vegan spiritual retreats where women get closer to the mother goddess by eating foods in a hippy commune.

It's the weirdest stuff ever. If you want to go pick berries or mangoes go right ahead, but it is inhumane to go on a strictly vegan diet. Not to mention wildly expensive.

@Dignaga People are free to choose what they eat to a large extent in this country. I have never seen what I would call a healthy middle age vegetarian or vegan. Granted there are exceptions to most every rule, they generally have various medical problems, requiring medicine and supplement intervention due to inadequate nutritional intake.

@Nitedoc I've seen a handful of healthy vegans, but they gotta scientifically suppliment. It wasn't until recently you could even get a vegan D3 vitamin. They were all taking D2 saying it was okay, and it wasn't.

@Dignaga That's about what I'm saying.

@Nitedoc Knew a man with cancer and he went Vegan thinking it would help with his recovery. He died…I doubt he was getting near enough protein. He was in his mid-60’s.