GoFish ·
Oh man
SammyJo · 51-55, F
I'm a cash type of person, for many reasons.
1 - I get paid in cash.
2 - With cash you can automatically see what you have. Right there in your hands. Physically. Tapping your phone, for me, is just a series of numbers that means nothing. I.e, I don't know how much is left in my account.
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1 - I get paid in cash.
2 - With cash you can automatically see what you have. Right there in your hands. Physically. Tapping your phone, for me, is just a series of numbers that means nothing. I.e, I don't know how much is left in my account.
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Placetodream · 46-50, F
Platinum · M
@Placetodream why.. .do you mean those who cant use Internet
Platinum · M
Are they coming from Belgium or France.....never use cash
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon If a shop insists cash-only for no clear business reason then I would suspect tax-avoidance.
Otherwise shops should offer the choice, and in the last few years many people have stayed with or returned to using cash to help them control their own spending.
There is another point, which Meggie may have missed in her "those who still use cash" headline; and seems completely unknown to the "cash-only" proponents - and the banks.
This is British society's huge range of activities, charities, clubs, small sales, public events etc., run by volunteers, for which cash is the only sensible and practical way to pay. The total annual turnover of the nation in myriad small-value cash transactions and donations is probably incalculable but enormous.
Remove cash, and swathes of these would suffer or even cease to exist.
Incidentally this thread is in the WRONG section of SW.
Otherwise shops should offer the choice, and in the last few years many people have stayed with or returned to using cash to help them control their own spending.
There is another point, which Meggie may have missed in her "those who still use cash" headline; and seems completely unknown to the "cash-only" proponents - and the banks.
This is British society's huge range of activities, charities, clubs, small sales, public events etc., run by volunteers, for which cash is the only sensible and practical way to pay. The total annual turnover of the nation in myriad small-value cash transactions and donations is probably incalculable but enormous.
Remove cash, and swathes of these would suffer or even cease to exist.
Incidentally this thread is in the WRONG section of SW.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon Well, one source of income for charities that would disappear is the collection-tin.
I imagine with paying via a portable 'phone, the 'phone company takes a middle-man fee on top of that charged by the bank for the work the shop does for it. It also means if that became the only choice, we'd be forced to buy an expensive phone and its contract even just for day-to-day life.
Paying digitally for a professional arts or sports event ticket is one thing, as they are not cheap; but expecting everyone to pay digitally at a garden-gate produce sale or for a tea-&-cake at a village fete or in a hobby club premises, would be unworkable, unwelcome and ridiculous
I admire the Norwegian Government for passing that law, and can understand the point about resilience. The Internet is just not safe and secure, and is becoming more, not less, fragile.
I imagine with paying via a portable 'phone, the 'phone company takes a middle-man fee on top of that charged by the bank for the work the shop does for it. It also means if that became the only choice, we'd be forced to buy an expensive phone and its contract even just for day-to-day life.
Paying digitally for a professional arts or sports event ticket is one thing, as they are not cheap; but expecting everyone to pay digitally at a garden-gate produce sale or for a tea-&-cake at a village fete or in a hobby club premises, would be unworkable, unwelcome and ridiculous
I admire the Norwegian Government for passing that law, and can understand the point about resilience. The Internet is just not safe and secure, and is becoming more, not less, fragile.
ninalanyon · 70-79, TVIP
@ArishMell I recommend a glance at the DSB web site. Norway is preparing not just for accidental disruptions of the Internet but deliberate hostile action. 2026 has been designated a year of Totalforsvarsåret, Total Defence.
P.s. The site is in English as well as Norwegian.
P.s. The site is in English as well as Norwegian.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@ninalanyon We should be adopting similar in the UK. Maybe we are but covertly and only for essential services.
After all, Britain and Norway are only two of many countries under continual attack from Russia predominently, China and North Korea; both digitally and by physical sabotage.
After all, Britain and Norway are only two of many countries under continual attack from Russia predominently, China and North Korea; both digitally and by physical sabotage.
Tastyfrzz · 61-69, M
Many small shops over here in the US only take credit cards so as to avoid being robbed.
ninalanyon · 70-79, TVIP
@meggie It doesn't cost anything like two quid to process a credit card transaction unless the price is a couple of hundred. And debit cards are cheaper still. Even charity shops have stopped asking for a minimum spend these days; I bought a book in BHF Dover yesterday for a pound and paid with my debit card.
Those places asking for cash are probably cheating on their taxes.
But I do think that one should always be able to pay cash, shops should not be allowed to be card only.
Those places asking for cash are probably cheating on their taxes.
But I do think that one should always be able to pay cash, shops should not be allowed to be card only.
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How many are suposed to be in the dinghy
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
It's a worry to me the number of supermarket checkouts that are card only.
Same for many smaller high street outlets.
Aside from no longer giving the spending public a choice in hard times, all that data on your spending habits ?
Where does that go ?
How much is it being sold for ?
And will it be used to deny you services you might later come to need, because of your choices ?
Same for many smaller high street outlets.
Aside from no longer giving the spending public a choice in hard times, all that data on your spending habits ?
Where does that go ?
How much is it being sold for ?
And will it be used to deny you services you might later come to need, because of your choices ?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Picklebobble2 You can make life a bit harder for the supermarkets by not using only one habitually, and not having their "loyalty cards"; but why would they or the advertising agencies who buy your details ever want to stop you buying anything?
We won't know what our details are sold for. That will be confidential between shop and ad agency. I worry more about what further sales may occur.
We won't know what our details are sold for. That will be confidential between shop and ad agency. I worry more about what further sales may occur.
Picklebobble2 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell most of it is unimportant.
But given that we import a lot of things not produced in the UK, and the delays in stock replenishing when we do, the prices rise regularly and you wonder whether that's a supply thing or an import thing or a company price gouging thing.
If a product has sales any number of reasons could cause delay.
How long is it going to be before pharmaceutical companies start withholding or maybe even having export licenses withdrawn either by their own government or drug regulator...for whatever reason ?
Makes you a hostage to economic or political will.
But given that we import a lot of things not produced in the UK, and the delays in stock replenishing when we do, the prices rise regularly and you wonder whether that's a supply thing or an import thing or a company price gouging thing.
If a product has sales any number of reasons could cause delay.
How long is it going to be before pharmaceutical companies start withholding or maybe even having export licenses withdrawn either by their own government or drug regulator...for whatever reason ?
Makes you a hostage to economic or political will.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Picklebobble2 Even if we were to produce many more things than we do, we'd likely still need import the materials; and those are subject to the vagaries of physical supply problems, acts of war, major industrial action, and the stock-market spivs like hedge-fund managers, futures traders and private-equity companies.
Price gouging only really works where the suppliers can work as a near-monoply or cartel, such as the service-areas on the motorways. Supermarkets are less likely to do that because they compete with each other on low cost, and the ones who suffer are not we customers but the food producers, especially the farmers, and the independent shops.
That government action would be likely only from hostile states as an act of war, because they woould not otherwise want to reduce their own nations' exports.
Price gouging only really works where the suppliers can work as a near-monoply or cartel, such as the service-areas on the motorways. Supermarkets are less likely to do that because they compete with each other on low cost, and the ones who suffer are not we customers but the food producers, especially the farmers, and the independent shops.
That government action would be likely only from hostile states as an act of war, because they woould not otherwise want to reduce their own nations' exports.
