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Just curious. When did rappers start using the n word in their music?

Have you heard that new song by Eminem and Snoop Dogg?
I like Snoop but in the song lyrics he says the n word like at least 40 times? I only got to listen to it once. He's really over done it. I just feel that some people would find that offensive and that makes the song uncomfortable to hear anyway.

I was just listening to this classic (if I may) and it's pretty clean and it made me wonder about that other song. This was the coolest song in the world when I was in middle school 😎

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I don’t like it, and I don’t use it. I don’t hear it among middle class friends unless they’re playing at being hoodrats. It was a mistake for rappers to use their influence in such a self-defeating way, because even they don’t want white people using the term—hypocritical—since it was their term for us, not ours.
@SW-User I don’t doubt it. I’ve heard the term applied to Donald Trump, after all.
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I sometimes heard OLDER (and certainly not "gangsta") Black people greeting each other with the term,
Men, no doubt. (I still don’t see women doing that) I saw a few guys my age sagging their pants and wondered what was wrong with them. Possibly a misguided attempt to be "hip" because rappers were doing it. Bill Maher used the word quoting somebody and got taken to task by a well-known rapper (Snoop ? Ice T ?) who told him, "that’s our word now, you don’t get to use it." Sorry, but white supremacists from here to Stormfront.com to Twitter (nowadays) did not get that memo. 😳
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@bijouxbroussard yep, it was men when it happened, and it made me uncomfortable

I saw a few guys my age sagging their pants and wondered what was wrong with them. Possibly a misguided attempt to be "hip" because rappers were doing it.

Oh jeeeeeez ... 🤣
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
So my understanding is incomplete. It was really popularized through the rise of gangsta rap bands like NWA (literally n*** with attitudes). The use was super deliberate and political and defiant. Claiming a linguistic weapon used against you as something you own now which frankly is pretty common across a lot of groups.

And I dunno when this happens but 80s-90s you see the word become more normalized in black communities as a sort of term of community and fraternity and just a part of the culture while simultaneously still being one of the most hateful things a non-black person can say. You're gonna hear Snoop say it a million times because the dude has established a flow and patter over literal decades now and it's just a part of what works for him.

The politics of language is weird.
@SW-User I agree that it’s misguided for a number of reasons. It is a degrading word. As a black person who’s been called it, I don’t even want another black person to call me that.
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@bijouxbroussard I'd prefer to rid the world of the word, personally. I'm sorry you have experienced that.
@SW-User That’s exactly how I feel about it.
BlueVeins · 22-25
Dunno when they started. Rappers are counterculture, and are therefore much more willing to violate normal social rules.
@BlueVeins That makes sense
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I've heard it being used sometimes as a term of fellowship or affection (the n-word ending in A not R) if said by members of the black community. Since Snoop is a black guy himself I can see why it's generally accepted.
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
@SW-User I'm a white guy, and I had a black guy call me the "A" form of that word. It was strange.
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@PiecingBabyFaceTogether
بنت مدينتي و تشبه لبنت خالتي جداً
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LOL
I guess that was his way to call you buddy
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smiler2012 · 56-60
{@piecingbabyfacetogether] the n word is not a nice word to be used as an expression and black people using it should be ashamed. as if it was used as an insult against there race or colour of there skin there would be uproar over it
@smiler2012 I actually agree with this.
smiler2012 · 56-60
@bijouxbroussard what he said wow
Dino11 · M
Self degrading, whatever color you are.
@Dino11 Agreed.
Probably sometime in the 90s. pretty sure I heard snoop say it at least 50 times just in one song. But..... Snoop got millions and millions so he dont give a damn who likes it and who doesnt.
When did rappers start rapping
@Onestarlitnight Not true, there was a time when it wasn’t used in popular rap, in the early days. I have a library of stuff where it isn’t used.
@bijouxbroussard I noticed that too in the old songs by old I mean like early 2000s and Will Smith in the Men In Black song and the one from Fresh Prince. I'm not really into hiphop but also all the black American or British 80s bands never used it.
@Onestarlitnight I don't know when rap came out.
Nwa was formed in idk 1986
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
About 30 or 40 years ago. Never heard of NWA?
@ChipmunkErnie No idea who those are
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@bijouxbroussard Not sure, gotta check... "active 1987 - 1991", so around 35 years ago.
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
@PiecingBabyFaceTogether Early hip hop group full name "N****z Wit Attitudes"; check out the biopic "Straight Outta Compton"
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@LvChris This didn’t sound much like agreement
'm not trying to listen to that again
So be it. You won’t.
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@LvChris Goodbye.
WhateverWorks · 36-40
At least since the early 90’s 🤔
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