I still can't believe people still listen to_______________________________

@Belladonna i don't have to know someone personally to get an idea of how they truly are

@MizzBella Yep, that's about what I figured. Judgey Judgerson.

@Belladonna and you know him?

@MizzBella Not personally, no, but I'm not the one judging him here. You're exactly the kind of person he sings about in songs like "Cake and Sodomy".

@Belladonna his actions make me judge him. I used to be a fan long ago. I can't support what he's done

@MizzBella You don't know what he has or hasn't done. Innocent until proven guilty.

@Belladonna only in a court of law. Certainly nobody's opinion has to reach that standard

@Belladonna What do you think of his autobiography, his behaviour in it and how he depicted himself and other people he encountered throughout that period of time?

@CrazyMusicLover I haven't read it in over 20 years. I'd have to reread it to give an opinion, tbh.

@Belladonna

recent January article,

https://nypost.com/2023/01/30/marilyn-manson-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-girl-16/

@therighttothink50 After reading his book, it wouldn't surprise me to turn out to be true. It's not like he would have lied about what kind of a person he was and how he saw other people. But people need to stop acting like it's only him. If there was some shady non-consensual shit happening, people surrounding him at the time were equally responsible.

@therighttothink50 @CrazyMusicLover I really hope he's not the horrible person the media is painting him to be.

@Belladonna I'm more curious how much of what he said about himself and people he was with was true. He alone painted himself as a horrible person. I read that the woman he performed with and about whom he claimed in the book that he would regularly beat her up black and blue during the performance stated that he was never violent with her and everything was faked on stage. One of them must lie and other people involved must know the truth as well but I don't think general public will ever learn what it is. Same with more recent allegations. People who worked with him say totally contradictory things about him.
If you have people involved in BDSM scene how are you going to prove what they did was or wasn't consensual? It's the word against the word.