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If a music is copyright can i play it at my school

Most of the dance music we use in my school is on spotify which i pay for. If i was to record my dancers with that music playing would it be ok to upload online seeing as I use spotify
helenS · 36-40, F
I would strongly recommend that you follow the advice given by @gdon39. Compensation claims can be expensive, and the music industry has plenty of well-payed lawyers.
@helenS Geese are temperamental creatures. Don't be surprised they have taste in music.
helenS · 36-40, F
@thewindupbirdchronicles I so wish I could fly with them.
@helenS beautiful, but sometimes they don't even appear to fly together so well. Some fly north, some fly west, others fly south... and it's a general free bird episode. But I'd love to see what they see and gander with them.
gdon39 · 46-50, M
Technically you aren’t allowed to replay recorded music or movies for events, profit and I can’t remember the rest. You can look up ascap

Look up ascap and you will see that you can stream it like at your event on certain streaming sites with no issues
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@gdon39 thanks! Im looking at ascap now and migh get their fitness license. Its an american society though so i might need to look at the dutfh equivalent
GLITTER · 36-40, F
I think you only have to pay if your broadcasting to the general public, you’re okay if your just using it for a play or something
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@GLITTER thanks. Thinking if uploading the dances to youtube though
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Soph03 That is also fine. The worst YouTube has ever done to me is not let me monetize a video I used copyrighted things in.
The person who holds the copyright gets paid every time someone sees my video using their stuff.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
Yes !!!!
Play it til the cows come home....
I don't see that any different than a cover band playing another bands song at the bar and getting paid for it.
@helenS I think any cover is itself determined to be free. Music is so difficult to copywrite, rhythmic drum sequences to my knowledge are not considered to be something that can be copywritten, as there is only so many available patterns and the music industry has decided we are limiting music if we go that far. And in general, covers are considered tribute in homage in live performance. It's a different story if released on an recording (album).
helenS · 36-40, F
@thewindupbirdchronicles The fees may be the venue's responsibility. I'm not sure.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@helenS Think of it like a juke box in the corner of the bar.
eMortal · M
If you’re planning to upload it to Spotify you’ll be ripped off. The record company can either take it down or get most of your earnings. Check Spotify or YouTube policies on that matter.
SW-User
As long as you don’t post anywhere the recording

But yeah, all that would kinda fall into CCLI copyright realms
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@SW-User im planning on putting it on YouTube
SW-User
@Soph03 yeah, that would be copyright infringement I think
You could chance it … I definitely wouldn’t record then post on YouTube with no CCLI permissions
Don't worry about it; no one will notice.
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@thewindupbirdchronicles my youtube channel get hundreds of views so I have to stay protected
@Soph03 Okay.. in a different world, I know youtube will argue they are only the medium, but in a way they are the publisher.... That's how tricky it gets.
Viper · M
I'm no lawyer, but in USA (which you aren't in, but I can't speak for anywhere else) won would need to look into the Fair Use rules which Copy Rights can't go after.

Which my uneducated guess is, usually the bottom line is anyone making any money or advertising gain off of use of this copy write or is it just for educational or free non-business/no profit entertainment


https://www.lib.uchicago.edu/copyrightinfo/fairuse.html
Fair Use
Copyright law provides for the principle, commonly called "fair use" that the reproduction of copyright works for certain limited, educational purposes, does not constitute copyright infringement. The Copyright Act establishes a four factor test, the "fair use test," to use to determine whether a use of a copyrighted work is fair use that does not require the permission of the copyright owner. The fair use test is highly fact specific, and much can turn on seemingly insignificant variations on the proposed use.
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@Viper ya I don't think its a fair use thing because i dont transform it
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Soph03 · 18-21, F
@SW-User thanks
TheCoolestCat · 31-35, M
technically nobody cares lol
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@TheCoolestCat what do you mean
MrAverage1965 · 61-69, M
This should answer your questions

https://www.auteursrecht.nl/Ik-wil-jouw-werk-gebruiken/Vertonen-en-ten-gehore-brengen
Gangstress · 41-45, F
Assuming your school has a prs licence, yes you are able to,
most schools will have that licence for various things
Gangstress · 41-45, F
@Soph03 just do it anyway lol
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@Gangstress ill try to get one of those licences
Gangstress · 41-45, F
@Soph03 it may be worth ringing them. I feel schools may be exempt
google is your friend.. read several posts and then you decide. mark
uncalled4 · 56-60, M
You Tube might flag it. There are bots that look for this stuff.
caesar7 · 61-69, M
I don't know about Spotify but I did a couple of videos drumming along to a famous band's music and got a message to take it off the platform or face legal action. I was so surprised and it was legit so I removed them. So I wouldn't chance it.
Soph03 · 18-21, F
@caesar7 maybe not worth the risk
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@caesar7 I have copyrighted stuff on my YouTube channel and the worst I have ever received that I couldn't monetize the video. Which is actually funny because any money I would have made that way goes to the copyright holder now. LOL
caesar7 · 61-69, M
@Soph03 That is your choice!

 
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