Star Wars Universe

@Burnley123 except for the fact that disney practically did nothing for star wars aside from just a couple of things. The sequel trilogy destroyed the priginal and prequel trilogy in one go, the new live action series (except for 2) are either mid or suck, then the other movies suck besides rogue one and thats by technicality. George Lucas' original plan for the sequel trilogy is FAR better than what disneys idea was (3 directors who direct a movie each... add whatever you want have fun. Oh and force is female). His idea was Luke rebuilding the jedi order and Leia building the new republic

@Mistakesmakeus ok. I welcome your opinion.

Sorry but I'm much too invested in politics right now to care. I'll give you the win.

@Burnley123 I agree on that. He was too far into the woods (possibly with the Ewoks!) to see the trees.

@Mistakesmakeus Hmmmmm...really don't agree...and, we don't know the long haul for the SW universe and whether, with or without Luke, the Jedi order will be rebuilt.

'Rogue One' was fantastic link with the series of movies...and, I think, Ep's 7-9 were quite strong. I enjoyed them.

@SammyJo the jedi order was destroyed with luke... again

Yoi cant be serious about 7-9 i have a whole list of stuff thats wrong with it such as

Rey skywalker... shes a palpatine
Rey somehow knows exactly how to pilot the MILLENNIUM FALCON
She is more knowledgeable on it than HAN SOLO
Finn had so much potential as a defect stormtrooper.... and they threw it away
That one asian chick? Forgettable at best
The bombing scene in the second film SUCKED
Holdo manuever made no sense, if people used hyper speed rams to destroy battle ships why wasnt it used to.. idk destroy the first death star... or use it against the invisible hand during the clone wars? It wouldve saved a lot of time and effort
Back to the bombing scene... lemme get this straight you send a WHOLE squadron of bombers with absolutely NO back up even though they move at the speed of snails AND for whatever reason it took the whole damn squadron to take down ONE ship just ONE

@Mistakesmakeus You could make arguments on practically ALL franchises, be they sci fi or not, there's always 'suspended disbelief' throughout. It you take it as entertainment then it is what it is...

...and, yes, I like them. Nothing is up to the benchmark of '..Empire...', but not many movies are..

@SammyJo ok what about snoke? He went nowhere
Reys parents were hinted at with every movie yet each one had a different version of parents
C-3PO lost his memory.. only to get it back minutes later
Chewbacca didnt die
Rey learns nothing and has no consequences for any of her actions
They did Luke DIRTY even Mark Hamill himself said it was terrible how they handled his character

@Mistakesmakeus Agree about Snoke....and, sometimes (as in real life) characters haven't got the whole story or have misinformation that they believe to be true...and Rey learning nothing and no consequence for her actions? Sounds like most Politian's to me. That does happen. We see it everyday in real life. Everything doesn't have to be so cut and dried in series/movies...

I always think the best series answer some questions and ask more.....and, do we need a neatly tied bundle of answers at the end of everything? Again, life isn't like that.

Yes, they could have done more with Luke.....and I wished they did....but they did what they did...and that's what we have.

@SammyJo you realize that this whole thing happened because disney HAD no plan for the sequel trilogy, right?

George Lucas wanted 7-9 to be about Luke's jedi Order and Leia rebuilding a new Republic which was leagues better than what Disney did

Let me tell you about Anakin, he lost his hand, lost his mom, grew up a slave, became a literal child soldier and general, lost the love of his life, had the weoght of the jedi order and galaxy on his shoulders because hes the chosen one, he made mistakes and learned from them

Luke lost his hand, lost his adoptive family, had the weight of the galaxy on his shoulders because Yoda and obiwan, he grew up practically a slave, could'nt achieve his dreams, lost his father, made mistakes and learned from them

Rey was perfect with the force, had minimal training, everyone loved her, she practically invented new force abilities, she didn't even know how to hold a lightsaber yet kicked kylos ass who had YEARS of training? Bs

@Mistakesmakeus Yes, I get it. I really do. I know what you mean about Rey too, but it's done and dusted. I take the movies for what they are; let's face it, our own imaginations make things so much more entertaining and exciting than what is out there.

The SW Universe (Star Wars, not Similar Worlds!) should be a slow burn, and who knows what they have in mind....the New Jedi Order (Let's call it NJO) might just be a thing and started from one of the underlings...another offshoot to the branch to the tree.

I'm enjoying all the series as they are giving up new characters and situations (or same situations on different planets......like we say in the real world, things just go in cycles - look at wars etc) and it's fun and entertainment.

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@SammyJo the new jedi order is going to be kicked off by Rey, the jedi with the best plot armor known to man. I know this because there will either be a show or a movie coming out for it so... little to no hope for disney star wars.

To contend your opinion on the new and similar situations part... the problem we're facing with that is we have 1 dominant species on this planet (earth/ humans) we know each other. And its just the 1 planet nothing else. Star wars on the other hand has an entire GALAXY for which to make stories on. Millions of different species billions of conflicts to come up with yet for whatever reason their best idea is to rehash old content, slap a sticker on it, and call it "the best damn star wars content you will ever see". Their CGI is lacking, story is heavily lacking, characters almost always have busted plot armor ESPECIALLY the females.

When it comes to characters they haven't really made interesting ones with compelling story narratives, or if they did they drop the ball almost immediately. Take Finn for example, hes been raised a storm trooper, brainwashed with all this propoganda, and ends up running into a resistance pilot and jumps ship to be with them. That's interesting because we never followed an ex storm trooper like that especially one that has never visited other planets. And what did they do with him? Pushed him to the side almost an hour into his premier movie to showcase Rey with all her perfections.

Or take Palpatine, he was killed in the original trilogy by darth vaders hands, this was meant to symbolize anakins return to the light and the prophecy of bringing balance to the force finally coming true.... and they took all that away as soon as Poe said "palpatine somehow returned" how? Who the hell knows he's alive and thats it. At least give a decent explanation for how you survive being blown up by the core of the second death star followed by being blown up by the death star explosion followed by surviving planetary re-entry which should've incinerated him if he was not already ash, survive the impact of hitting any surface regardless of matter state which if he miraculously survived ANY of the past 3 circumstances would've flattened him like a pancake. Not to mention that by some damn absolute maddening miracle he survived all of that then explain how after landing he survived the wreckage that would eventually fall planet side due to de orbiting. Now we're looking at wreckage the size of damn sky scrapers judging by how the thing was the size of a PLANET. That's just BS writing for the sake of nostalgia which was unwarranted.

Outside the films though, tell me how people survive lightsaber stabbings. In the original films you can get a limb chopped off and youd be kinda ok, limbless but ok. In the prequel trilogy you can get stabbed, multiple limbs cut off and DIE (darth maul was split in half and came back but there was justification so that gets a pass... kinda). In the new disney content you have a yoingling get stabbed and survive then get stabbed AGAIN and survived as an adult, the grand inquisitor gets stabbed and lives, a character in a new show gets stabbed and for whatever reason... also lives. Its like lightsabers no longer do that much damage comparable to its predecessors, they don't MEAN anything. In which case, why are lightsabers still being used if anyone can survive a damn stab. Now before you say "oh it didnt hit anything vital" keep in mind that you have a lightsaber thats hotter than the surface of a star going straight through you, if it didnt hit anything vital then either the shock or the melting of surrounding tissue and organs would fix that