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Mamdani meets with Trump

Mamdani is a smooth operator with high emotional intelligence, so he knew exactly how to handle Trump. I'm sure he was prepared.

If Trump wasn't a self-centered idiot, he might have asked Mamdani why, when a crowd of antisemitic scum was chanting "death to the IDF" outside a synagogue, instead of condemning the protesters, Mamdani condemned the people inside the synagogue who were holding an event for Nefesh b'Nefesh, and said that it was "illegal" for Americans to emigrate to Israel. I can't believe he would have reacted the same to a group of anti-Muslim protesters chanting outside a mosque that was holding an event recruiting for UNRWA or whatever would be the equivalent. He would have condemned those protesters and reminded everyone that people who live in the US shouldn't be held responsible for what their co-religionists are doing overseas.

What makes Mamdani dangerous aren't his ideas--Nick Fuentes, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson are much worse--it's his undeniable charisma. He's going to be the face of the Democratic party for the next few years, so his failures (and I don't see any sign that he is any more capable of running NYC than Trump is of running the US) are going to be the Democrats' failures. He's also going to amplify the growing conflict between the Democratic old guard and the up and coming progressives. But just as Nick Fuentes et al. exemplify right wing antisemitism (they don't GAF about Palestinians, they just hate Jews), Mamdani exemplifies the antisemitism of the left, where they will assure you that they don't hate Jews at all ("some of the best people in our movement are Jewish"), they just hate "Zionists," which is the polite left-wing term. The fact that Mamdani has fooled a lot of liberal Jews (although he would have been elected without them) isn't encouraging. And now he's fooled Trump, not that it was particularly difficult. Maybe they can bond over their mutual hatred of Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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@SomeMichGuy I'm not saying you hate Jews; in fact, most of the people marching and chanting "free Palestine" and "from the river to the sea" don't hate Jews. But there is an antisemitic component in the left-wing anti-Israel contingent. It's just not as blatant as the right wing, which is obvious and leaves no element of doubt.

Of course being against Netanyahu or Israeli government policy isn't antizionist; many Israelis and Jews who consider themselves Zionists are vocally critical of both. I personally view the West Bank settlements as impediments to peace, regardless of whether they're illegal or not. What I'm referring to is more nuanced--an opposition to Israel's continued existence, or at least its existence as a majority Jewish state. Israel is the only country whose continued existence is up for debate, at least on a wide scale (unlike Taiwan, whose existence is only questioned by China). Given the fact that most Israeli Jews are descended from refugees, and taking into account the experience of the Jewish people as minorities in many countries, there needs to be a recognition that calling for Israel's destruction is antisemitic (even with repeated claims that "antizionism isn't antisemitism") and holding Jews who don't live in Israel responsible for what goes on in that country is definitely antisemitic. Mamdani should have some sensitivity to this, as he's mentioned how his "auntie" was hassled after 9/11 because she was wearing a hijab. He should have made the connection and condemned the crowd, not the people inside the synagogue.

I don't think Netanyahu baited Hamas; it's the other way around. Oct. 7 was intended to provoke a reaction, and it succeeded. In retrospect, maybe a better strategy would have been to assassinate the Hamas leaders living in Qatar.
How does this relate to this group ?
@bijouxbroussard Mamdani is the boy meeting the "world."
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@LeopoldBloom Nope, the contrary
@Elessar They're both boys--Mamdani because of his physical age, and Trump because of his mental age.
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There should be a lazy-and-disingenuous-conflation-of-anti-Zionism-with-antisemtism drinking game, because it's been too long since I've been drunk, and this game would make it beyond easy to get hammered
@BlueGreenGrey You don't think a bunch of people outside a synagogue screaming about "killing settlers" isn't antisemitic?

Zionism is the idea that the Jewish people (who aren't just following a religion, but are an ethnicity) are entitled to self-determination in their historic homeland, which they've exercised for almost 80 years. At this point, Israel's continued existence should be taken for granted. Nobody refers to themselves as a Ghanaist or Uruguayist because nobody is clamoring to wipe out those countries. If I were to say that I have nothing against Russian people, but because of Russia's past atrocities as the USSR and its current war in Ukraine, the Russian people don't deserve their own country, I think most people would call that anti-Russian.

Also, what's your opinion of white people who tell Black people what is or isn't racist, and when the Black person disagrees and says yes, I felt that was racist, laugh at them and propose a drinking game? But people who aren't Jewish think they can tell Jewish people what is and isn't antisemitic, because you think you're an expert.

I wish Mamdani the best in his mayorship, but the guy is an antisemitic piece of shit.
@LeopoldBloom it's been made painfully clear to me in recent days that I cannot reason with anyone, on this topic, or any other, so I'm done trying to reason with anyone ... everyone is perfectly content to stay in their own literal alternate realities, divorced from fact or truth, where proof is a fool's errand
@BlueGreenGrey If I had a nickel every time someone who isn't Jewish attempted to explain why something a Jewish person considered antisemitic actually wasn't, I could retire.
Trump is an actor just like Mamdani
@mysteryespresso Mamdani is the left wing version of Trump. I'm just glad the guy wasn't born here or he'd be running for president in 2028.
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