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So i was watching the documentary about Halyna on the set of RUST...My whole perspective has changed

Armorer Hannah looked at the bullets in the prop gun and then had the director look at it. They looked like fake bullets and both parties were experienced. Then it was handed to Alec and then he was told what to do, with Halyna standing 6 inches from the gun. Bang!

I equate this with someone in a movie holding a detonator with dynamite attached to a vest they are wearing. someone askes them to test the denotator to make certain that this will cause the lights to go on (on the vest) to make sure it looks good. then actor hits detonator and the set blows up.

How the hell does anyone see this as an excuse to blame the actor? He had to go to court twice for this when he was without a doubt without blame.

The news lied about the facts the entire time. everything i read was so slanted to make it sound like he did it on purpose. Even if he had in fact, checked the gun when it was handed to him, it wouldn't have made a difference. they looked like fake bullets.

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HumanEarth · F

Anyone killed

Of course the news is going to lie. The movie studios own the television networks. They are going to cover it up.

Just like the government and big pharma do.

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@HumanEarth Halyna Hutchins was killed in the Alec Baldwin case.

LILY61

@HumanEarth they said that there weren't supposed to be any bullets and that it should have been empty and that she, the armorer, didn't check it.

There were bullets in the gun. they were all supposed to be fake bullets. and she and the director checked the gun.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 it doesn't matter. Baldwin was never trained with guns.

LILY61

@DeWayfarer there shouldn't have been an Alec Baldwin case. he was never the responsible party. But that is what made the news so they blamed him

HumanEarth · F

I don't watch news anymore, I haven't in over 20 years because I know they lie

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 I will say it over and over and over.

Baldwin should never handled any guns. He responsible just by that fact that he has never handled a gun.

Would you let anyone drive a car with taking any tests? It never happens BTW.

LILY61

@DeWayfarer he had some training on the Rust set. And he used guns on many movies before. it was a rehearsal and he did what he would have done during filming. if he were an expert...it would have happened anyway

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 I doubt it! Why? Because everyone trained in guns checks their own weapons before hand

Baldwin never checked it himself!

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LILY61

@HumanEarth and?

HumanEarth · F

Farmers do it all the time and still do it.

Its country life, family working to get field work done.

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LILY61

@DeWayfarer I don't think until this happened that anyone would do more than look in the cylinder to see what was in there. they all checked it that way. the prop bullets and the prop guns are supposed to look a certain way. no one pulled the bullets out of the gun to check them individually.

why would he? if he popped it open to check, he would have seen the same thing they all did.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 because he would be the one handling the gun!

The one handling the gun is responsible. He is liable for checking himself. No one else.

If I were to have pulled a gun out of the armory and not checked it I would be responsible if it went off!

LILY61

@DeWayfarer watch the documentary....he does have experience with guns and he worked with guns and was trained then with guns. how much training do you need to be handed a gun that has been checked by experts with guns that handed you a gun?

go look at his previous movies...guns, guns, guns. the actors do in fact have to handle the guns.

you can't make a movie about a guy with a gun and not have him be filmed with the gun. your point makes no sense.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 he didn't check. He said that himself!

Checking is the very first thing you do!

LILY61

@DeWayfarer okay, so now i realize that you are just arguing to argue. If he had checked, he would have seen the same thing the other two did. blanks. blanks are not suppose to look like real bullets intentionally. so when they each looked they saw the same thing. blanks. I think someone who made the blanks had to do this on purpose. otherwise, it would have been noticed.

It reminds me of what happened to Jason Lee. same exact thing

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 no. I'm a marksman myself in the military!

LILY61

@DeWayfarer i don't believe you and i have a vast amount of experience with guns. and if someone on a set handed you a gun to pretend with, the same thing would have happened.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 every time I pick up a weapon, no matter what that weapon was I checked it out myself!

And afrer returning it I field strip it before returning the weapon!

LILY61

@DeWayfarer i still don't believe you, but this is a movie set. it is supposed to be a safe place.

you are referring to a situation where YOU are suppose to be in charge of your weapon and nobody else.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 it doesn't matter if it's a safe place or not.

An armory is supposed to be a safe place! I still checked it.

A weapons rack is not a safe place. I still checked it.

You receive a weapon, you check it.

LILY61

@DeWayfarer so you pull all the bullets out and thoroughly check them? what a lie?

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@LILY61 I would load them myself in the first place!

You have never fired a gun, have you?

You load it yourself. Even if it was clips or a shotgun or a machine gun belt.

Then you take them out to strip clean it.

BTW If it wasn't clean, you couldn't turn it back into the armorer. Even if it wasn't fired. He checked it himself.

This is the type of training that should be required. By everyone.

Not some sloppy half training.

Sloppy gets people killed. Even those using a gun.

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