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Started watching Shogun

I like Fuji. Everyone else makes me mad. Even John Blackthorne because he shouts too much. And he鈥檚 a pirate. 馃き Okay, so he鈥檚 more likable as the show goes on, but only a little.
Mariko鈥aybe. She鈥檚 funny at times. She gave Kiku a less honest translation of what John said to her. That made me laugh.

John: Tell her prostitutes from my homeland are never as inquisitive or nicely put together. *blush*

Mariko: He prefers women from his homeland. 馃槕

John: Tell her I don鈥檛 have the words to express how grateful I am. *blush*

Mariko: He said thanks. 馃槖


Other times, I get it. She has a very tragic backstory, and she鈥檚 made herself cold-hearted in many ways.

Fuji, though. I thought she was just a character with terrible things constantly happening to her. But when she got more scenes and showed her personality, I just find her so quirky and funny. She promised to guard John鈥檚 guns, and threatened people who tried to take them even though she was crying before about having to serve John. Her crying in another scene, begging John to let them get rid of the stinky rotting pheasant. 馃槀馃様
Benjago41-45, M
I think this show has been pretty great so far. When I started it I figured after a couple episodes it would feel same old, same old as far as these historical type epics go. But the depth has been quite a nice surprise.
Colonelmustardseed36-40
@Benjago I think the way they express the extreme differences between cultures is done very well. We get to be as horrified and confused as John. (How words can鈥檛 just be thrown around. They have weight and consequences, especially when someone is given status)
Benjago41-45, M
@Colonelmustardseed Agree, very fine lines and I think they are showing it quite well. The big one being the value on their own lives and how they almost trivialize and glorify their own death. Throws John for a loop.
bookerdanaM
Is this the mini-series from the eighties???
Colonelmustardseed36-40
@bookerdana No. This is still in the progress of being made. That one might also be based on the book.
ninalanyon61-69, T
@Colonelmustardseed They are both based on James Clavell's book of the same name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dgun_(novel)#Television
bookerdanaM
@ninalanyon thanks
AlchemyFox36-40, F
Too much skull crushing for me
Colonelmustardseed36-40
@AlchemyFox I understand. Some of the imagery was disturbing to me. Most is typical, but one event in particular was way too much.
AlchemyFox36-40, F
@Colonelmustardseed I only got through a few episodes when I watched the guy beating someone's brain out and I was done. I've seen too much in my real life to find that entertaining.
We read the book in jr high in the mid 80's for English class, one part seriously upset half of my classmates and the teacher, a first year, was fired over it, it involved gay sex between the narrator and his master. Mind You, this was iowa in 1984, a state that even 40 years later is still stuck religiously and culturally in the 1800's.
Colonelmustardseed36-40
@NativePortlander1970 I get it. Maybe high school, but jr high is pretty immature. They shouldn鈥檛 be reading any type of sex in books. Gay or straight. Anything with suicide in it either. Romeo and Juliet, for example.

If it wasn鈥檛 something described in detail, though, he shouldn鈥檛 have been fired. If all it did was mention sex between the characters, that鈥檚 not something to be fired over. So far, the show isn鈥檛 very graphic. It鈥檚 only implied sex, which I appreciate the lack of constant bare skin. The violence gets graphic though. The man being boiled alive鈥 hated that.
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