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What is nerdier?

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Star Wars
Star Trek
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kayoshin · 36-40, M
Definitely Star Trek. It's pure sci-fi. Star wars is geekier it's fantasy set in space.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@kayoshin A man that knows his sci-fi!
kayoshin · 36-40, M
Sort of. I am a Star Wars geek :)
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@kayoshin Damn dude... I'm sorry for your recent loss

As a Trekkie I am going through a very similar situation with STD
kayoshin · 36-40, M
Haha phrasing! Well honestly I believe the only loss SW suffered was the death of Carrie Fisher. I am an old school SW fan saw the originals as a kid in the early 90s then saw the prequels and .. didn't hate them cause I tried to judge them as 90s movies instead of a direct tie in to the feeling of 70s and 80s movies, and now I don't feel upset at all about the new movies because they 1. Are entertaining 2. They could no way in hell make all the fandom happy so I'm glad they even tried. 3. Han Solo and Rogue One were really fun and I blame all the poor boxofice of Solo on YouTube and clickbait mongers riding the fanhate bandwagon into moneymaking. I fell into that trap with The Force Awakens but after that I avoided seeing stupid fan theories and clickbait hate videos and I actually enjoyed the other 3 films as what they were.
kayoshin · 36-40, M
So why is STD bad? (I assume you mean ST Discovery not Sexually transmitted deseases that's what I meant by phrasing :))
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@kayoshin Well, I am not a huge Star Wars fan, but I think the new films are riddled with SJW feminist propaganda, terrible characters, plot holes you could drive the Death Star through, and of course Rey Sue, lol

It's good that some folks are enjoying them. But from an objective standpoint they are not a patch on the originals, or even the prequels.
kayoshin · 36-40, M
Well I think pretty much everything in the last few years is full of feminist bias so I'm getting a little jaded and stopped noticing it anymore unless it's really blatant or misandric. On the rest I really can't comment since we know at most 2/3 of the story so there can be legitimate reasons for Rey to be as powerful as she is (might tie in to the return to the force of Anakin and Sirius almost at the same time and since Anakin was an artificial manipulation of the force it could have rippled into creating new overpowered force users (like he was supposed to be if he hadn't gotten chopped to bits).
Plot holes.. well they are a staple of Star Wars it's a fantasy thing it takes a lot of "just go with it" ;) I guess it wouldn't fly with a hard SciFi like Trek.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@kayoshin Those of us that don't like it refer to it as STD (which seems to be a majority of us)

Well, there are so many things...

They've moved away from an ensemble cast to having one crew member as the focus.

That character is yet another Mary-Sue and thoroughly unlikable, she pretty much shouts everyone else down.

The WORST thing of all is how much they are fucking around with the canon or just outright ignoring it.

Just recently they introduced a young Spock to the show, and Michael Burnham (the STAR of the show) is pretty much teaching him to be the Spock that we all know, mainly because they've injected her into his life by making her his adopted sister.

Also they are concentrating too much on special effects rather than character driven stories.

It was a joke amongst us viewers that no-one knew the names of ANY of the bridge crew. They were just there as filler rather than characters because EVERYTHING is about Burnham and how amazing she is.

Tonally is just no longer feels like Star Trek and that's why we are switching off.
kayoshin · 36-40, M
It does sound horrible. I only followed TNG and a little of the originals and the movies but what I liked about TNG was that you could never know who would be the protagonist of the next episode it could be anyone from the captain to a random red shirt. Your description sounds like STD indeed. Seems like you're getting a bigger kick in the softies than SW fans got.
Quizzical · 46-50, M
@kayoshin It's happening all over the sci-fi world at the minutes.

It's like SJWs and Militant feminists have decided we are a soft taret do they are moving in to ruin everything we love...

They're not having an easy time of it though. They've forgotten they need our money and viewership to survive.

I think they honestly expected to oust all of us older white dudes from the genre by making everything unrelatable (or just crap) and replace us with a whole host of virtue signallers.

It seems the virture signallers they wanted to appear are either not there or don't like sci-fi, lol

Companies can' just go around insulting their main customer (as has actually happened) and not expect some for of backlash.

Take Captain Marvel for example. Larson blasts her mouth off every week and the projected sales drop every time, and rotten tomatoes is showing the percentage of people wanting to see the film is at now at 28%

Of course... We must ALL be misogynists and women haters.

Odd then that Wonder Woman did really well and Alita is doing amazingly!
kayoshin · 36-40, M
The problem is the customer for sci fi changed but instead of broadening the range of science fiction it just moved focus from one type of nerd to another and the big spenders are teenage and 20 year old women not men, just ask the fashion industry. So the money is not going to be a leverage in men's favour :) It's ok these things tend to be cyclical, soon people will get tired of watching 45 kg women beating men the size of The Rock with one hand behind d their back without any reason :)