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The 20 Point Peace Plan for Gaza

This may be the closest yet to achieving peace in Gaza, the first step toward an eventual Palestinian state. If you were hoping for Bibi to be brought to The Hague on war crimes charges, or for Israel to no longer exist, you'll be disappointed. This is not a solution to the Israel-Palestine situation; it's a plan to end the war.

The entire plan may be seen here in full:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70155nked7o

I will do my best to summarize:

Immediate end to the war and withdrawal of Israeli troops from Gaza.

All Israeli hostages released within 72 hours, followed by the release from Israeli prisons of 250 life sentenced prisoners and 1,700 Gazans detained since Oct. 7, 2023.

Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence and decommission their weapons will be given amnesty, and any who wish to leave Gaza may do so.

Full humanitarian aid and material to rebuild infrastructure will be sent in to Gaza.

Aid will enter without interference from either the IDF or Hamas, and will be administered through the UN and Red Crescent. The Rafah crossing will be opened.

An apolitical committee of qualified Palestinians and international experts will administer Gaza's day to day affairs. A "Board of Peace" headed by President Trump will set the framework and handle funding for redevelopment.

No one will be forced to leave Gaza, and those who wish to leave will be allowed to, and will be free to return later.

Hamas will have no role in governance of Gaza. Underground tunnels will be permanently destroyed and all weapons decommissioned.

Security will be provided by an international stabilization force (ISF) developed by the US and the Arab states.

Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. The IDF will withdraw and hand authority to the ISF.

Delays by Hamas will not impede implementation in areas they do not control.

The path toward Palestinian statehood and the aspirations of the Palestinian people toward self-determination will be recognized.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Isn't it interesting Bloom how you march lock step with every left wing narrative except this one?

You believe Hunter Biden's laptop is fake, antifa doesn't exist, Trump and MAGA are fascists.

But you don't support Palestine and Hamas over Israel.

If you were consistent, you would be crowing about the Israeli genocide and making everything about Zionists on this issue.

But you don't. You have a much more nuanced opinion on this issue. Why is that, ya think? 🤔
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom So you're not brainwashed on this issue then. Again, why is that?

And no, I never, ever said I opposed Isreal or supported Palestine. Again you are bitter and sore because I called out some of Isreael's behavior in Palestine as identical to how the Nazi's treated the Jews.

You were notably triggered by my comments on that.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 Vinny, the comment was directed at Bloom. Of course you have no idea what's being discussed. That's what happens when you butt into a conversation that is not for you.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster This is a social discussion site if you want to have a private conversation dm him otherwise all comments are up for grabs skm
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 And of course you miss the point. The point isn't that I am cross you stepped in here, it's that you did so, had no idea what was being discussed and then made a childish non sequitur because you can't respond relevantly.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster No, I got the point, I just don't happen to agree with you is all.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster And it doesn't change the fact that Hunter Biden never played a part in the US Federal gov't did he
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 Actually no, you didn't get the point. I don't believe Hunter Bidens' laptop is fake, it is Bloom who stated that.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 Well other than unofficially advising his father, Joe Biden, he didn't have an official role in the government. Now his work for Burisima is another matter entirely
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster
I would expect Trump to support a full scale invasion into Palestine if Hamas does not accept this peace plan.

Actually this was the quote that spurred my retort lol.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster [quote]Actually no, you didn't get the point. I don't believe Hunter Bidens' laptop is fake, it is Bloom who stated that.
And what, pray tell, does Hunter Biden's lap-top have fuck all to do with US politics?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 Ok, why didn't you just say that in the first place? Why all the denial?
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 Not that its any of your business but it had to do with my conversation with Bloom. Again, this is what happens when you drop into a conversation not knowing the context.
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster Listen, I can't control how you conceive statements, work out your own cognitive difficulties.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 I'm fine bro, it's you who is getting all agitated. Sorry your attempt at trolling didn't work out. Better luck next time.
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SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
Vin53 · M
@SumKindaMunster lol is that one of his many grift merchandise props?
@SumKindaMunster Because it's not only wrong, it verges on the antisemitic trope of calling Jews "Nazis." There have never been any death camps or mass roundups of Palestinians in Israel. If the treatment of Palestinians is "Nazi" behavior, then so was the treatment of Black Americans during Jim Crow, Northern Irish Catholics prior to the Good Friday Accords, and pretty much every example of discrimination in history.

You've bought the propaganda that Hunter Biden is the worst criminal in modern history. The worst thing the guy did was not reveal that he was a drug addict on a gun application, which may not have even been a crime as he'd been clean for a while. It depends on whether "addiction" is a lifelong condition or refers to active drug use. AA has promoted the idea that "once an addict, always an addict" as it fits their agenda where you have to keep attending meetings for the rest of your life, even after you've stopped drinking.

Anyway, weak sauce for a criminal conviction. As for Hunter arranging for his father to sit in on business meetings, I'm sure you must be really outraged at Jared Kushner leveraging his father-in-law to get the Saudis to give him a multi-billion dollar bailout of his failing office building.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@Vin53 I pulled that image from your Amazon wish list. 😂
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@LeopoldBloom I'm sorry it upsets you to be confronted with some of the poor behavior by the Israeli's here. I'm sorry the point I made upset you so, but it was just my opinion.

Personally, I believe you are more moderate on Israel/Palestine because you are a Jew and have an obvious affinity for the Jewish homeland.

Nothing wrong with that.

But my point is that when the subject has a personal impact on yourself, you are much more pragmatic and measured in your opinions.

My belief is that if you weren't Jewish, you would be a full throated supporter of the Palestinians and chanting their propaganda.

I actually appreciate reading your opinions on this subject because I think they are more pragmatic and reasonable.