Upset
Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

Israel could never beat Hamas. it is only making sure there will alway be a Hamas. You cannot kill the idea of resisting a barbaric occupation

You cannot ensure the safety of Israeli citizens while simultaneously denying Palestinians their basic human rights such as the right of return , self determination, and statehood. This is like wanting coffee but ordering tea instead .
You cannot uproot them and throw them somewhere else
shoot and kill them whenever you want to and face no repercussions which was the norm before 7th of October
You cannot detain them just because you feel like it for hours which was the norm before 7th of October
You cannot Occupy them in a brutal manner
And subjugate them to an apartheid regime
And build segregation walls
And build illegal settlements
In their own land
Regularly attack their holy places
Give violent settlers impunity to do crimes
Again all before 7th of October
And be shocked of “terrorism “
What kind of delusional crap is that?
This is how colonists speak .

Jews lived in that land before the state of Israel was founded and lived side by side to the Christians and Muslims
But when you are a settler colony made by folk who arrived on planes and boats not long ago and still do and have been subjugating the already existing population of all faiths to a nightmare for decades now
Then only blame yourself.
I don’t view Hamas as a terrorist organization
And if I do then I’ll also call the IDF and Israel a terrorist organization using the same logic I used to call Hamas as such.
The UN by the way does not consider Hamas to be a terrorist organization Either.
This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
[quote]I don’t view Hamas as a terrorist organization[/quote]

If they attack civilians, then they're terrorists, even if their motive is good.
Though really, I don't think Hamas cares about Palestinians. If they did, they wouldn't be giving Israel an excuse to ramp up the genocide. Either way, there's no defending the deliberate targeting of civilians.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BohemianBoo

Hamas denies the deliberate targeting of civilians
And Hamas charter denies that too
So I have no reason to characterize Hamas as a terrorist organization
But according to you the
IDF is a terrorist organization
Because it has deliberately killed endless civilians even before 7th of October
do you consider the IDF a terrorist organization?
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BohemianBoo not true
Israel was killing civilians before 7th of October
Even in West Bank where there is no Hamas

You mean Israel should continue the aggression undistrubed
@Moon3624 Yes, I know Israel targets civilians. I'm saying Hamas does too.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BohemianBoo
If “A “ group who arrived from abroad and still do to “B’s” land
Ethnically cleanses B group and until today does it and refuses to give those who it ethnically cleansed the right to return
Occupies them
Put them under military rule and apartheid regime
Denies their freedom and sovereignty and any economic opportunities
Shoot civilians with no repercussions
And other human right abuses
All before 7th of Oct
which ultimately
Destroyed their culture and livelihood
And their essence
To the point people have started to argue about their nativeness to their own fucking land bc of Israeli propaganda machinery that is funded by billions when before then no one doubted it
And Palestinians did every kind of plea for Justice even peaceful protests only to fall on deaf ears and met with fire
I do not blame Them if They’r driven to insanity.
when 7th of Oct happens
Which is nothing compared to the suffering of Palestinians
They have to be put under the spotlight and sympathize with Israelis and condemn Hamas
And suddenly it’s two poor sides ?
how do you think it makes them feel?
They are angry because no one calls the IDF and Israeli government terrorists
Despite their long list of worse worse atrocities committed against Palestinians
And in no way in hell will it ever be two poor sides
One is the oppressor the other is oppressed
Yes surely the civilians of the oppressor death is bad
But who is the oppressor and who is oppressed is not a matter of debate in the least
And expecting Palestinians to sympathize with Israelis is like expecting Jews to sympathize with germans during Nazi Germany
@Moon3624[quote]And expecting Palestinians to sympathize with Israelis is like expecting Jews to sympathize with germans during Nazi Germany[/quote]

After WWII, there were lots of Eastern Europeans who attacked regular Germans, civilians who had nothing to do with the Nazi Party. The attackers were mad at what the Nazis did, but they took it out on innocent civilians. This led to a mass movement of Germans, which shows how common these racist attacks were. It was basically an ethnic cleansing of Eastern Europe.

I consider those people who forced the Germans out to be terrorists. There is never a good reason for deliberately killing civilians. The Palestinians don't have to sympathize with the Israels, but they also shouldn't murder them.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BohemianBoo


But I never said that the
Murder of civilians is okay
I said they are not “equally “ two poor sides
They are not both the victims
One is the oppressor the other is oppressed


My point is not hard to grasp Instead of asking Palestinians to condemn stuff when no one cared to condemn Israel all of these years
instead of talking to them about how to give them Justice
Is pure hypocrisy and this is what I’m tryna point out
@Moon3624 I agree that they're not equally bad. Hamas exists because of conditions that Israel caused. Israel is the main problem here.
But you also said that Hamas aren't terrorists, which just isn't true.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BohemianBoo

Do you consider the IDF to be a terrorist organization?
@Moon3624 Yes.