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Israel could never beat Hamas. it is only making sure there will alway be a Hamas. You cannot kill the idea of resisting a barbaric occupation

You cannot ensure the safety of Israeli citizens while simultaneously denying Palestinians their basic human rights such as the right of return , self determination, and statehood. This is like wanting coffee but ordering tea instead .
You cannot uproot them and throw them somewhere else
shoot and kill them whenever you want to and face no repercussions which was the norm before 7th of October
You cannot detain them just because you feel like it for hours which was the norm before 7th of October
You cannot Occupy them in a brutal manner
And subjugate them to an apartheid regime
And build segregation walls
And build illegal settlements
In their own land
Regularly attack their holy places
Give violent settlers impunity to do crimes
Again all before 7th of October
And be shocked of “terrorism “
What kind of delusional crap is that?
This is how colonists speak .

Jews lived in that land before the state of Israel was founded and lived side by side to the Christians and Muslims
But when you are a settler colony made by folk who arrived on planes and boats not long ago and still do and have been subjugating the already existing population of all faiths to a nightmare for decades now
Then only blame yourself.
I don’t view Hamas as a terrorist organization
And if I do then I’ll also call the IDF and Israel a terrorist organization using the same logic I used to call Hamas as such.
The UN by the way does not consider Hamas to be a terrorist organization Either.
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@jshm2 Yeah, if the Israeli government really wanted to defeat Hamas, they would end the blockade, give Palestinians full rights, and invest in Gaza. The reason Israel secretly funded Hamas is because they're using them to justify their fascist ethnostate.
[quote]I don’t view Hamas as a terrorist organization[/quote]

If they attack civilians, then they're terrorists, even if their motive is good.
Though really, I don't think Hamas cares about Palestinians. If they did, they wouldn't be giving Israel an excuse to ramp up the genocide. Either way, there's no defending the deliberate targeting of civilians.
@Moon3624 I agree that they're not equally bad. Hamas exists because of conditions that Israel caused. Israel is the main problem here.
But you also said that Hamas aren't terrorists, which just isn't true.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@BohemianBoo

Do you consider the IDF to be a terrorist organization?
@Moon3624 Yes.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
History tells us this is correct. Really this is an extension of the same war that has gone on for 80+ years. Anyone who thinks Israel (and those initial settlers) does not have the goal of claiming all land between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean is a fool. They won't publicly state it, and they will certainly deny that they have the intent to kill all Palestinians - but clearly they would not mind if they "encouraged" them to leave. And would think they are morally superior in that way because they are not advocating "killing" them.

Really this is a war about resources, as are most wars. The resources here are land and water.
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Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@SW-User
Lmao that is actually a funny meme ngl
The fact you took time out of your day to make that is hilarious
I give you credit for that
But I did send you evidence that IDF is a terrorist organization
But you don’t call the IDF a terrorist organization so ur a hypocrite
And I asked you what’s happening in the West Bank where there is no Hamas and you completely ignored that
In the end of the day Palestinians are the victim and Israel is the aggressor
Settler colonial barbaric state
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Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@SW-User
“ I'm glad you appreciate that. Some people don't.”
I appreciate art.



You mean
A government that is committing an illegal occupation and founded through setter violent barbarians who stole lands from the native population living there and still denies them the right of return and other basic human rights and turned their lives into living hell ?
but Hamas is the problem? Get rid of Hamas so Israel can continue what it’s doing ?
Plus there is nothing in Hamas charter that makes me believe They’r terrorist organization
If you criticize their operation
Then same thing can be said about IDF operations


“ That being said, IDF needs to be taken to task for its war crimes.”

I was talking about pre 7th of October attack.
They are a terrorist organization by your own standards.
If you do not call the IDF a terrorist organization
I don’t have a reason to call Hamas a terrorist organization
Because it seems like this is a pathetic game you are trying to play


Furthermore the Palestinian struggle does not revolve around Hamas as we see in the West Bank

My point is as long as you do not admit that Israel is the aggressor
Even if the other side commits misconduct
Then it’s a fruitless argument
Because it is insanity to equate the two sides
As two poor victims
SW-User
USA had no problem totally eliminating well entrenched Japanese soldiers during WW2. It's a matter of resolve, manpower and firepower.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@SW-User
But Japanese army was not a resistance
Different ideology 😅
SW-User
@Moon3624 People removal is people removal.
Moon3624 · 18-21, F
@SW-User
You can remove people
You cannot remove an idea

 
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