Middle East Conflict

@gol979 Seems like finally agree on something

@gol979 Some "genocide" considering that Gaza has one of the highest birthrates in the world. Unless you mean the desire of Hamas to kill every Jew in the world? That genocide?

@LeopoldBloom they are having babies (gross) and chucking rocks at snipers. They are standing in the way of JCB "progress" and destruction of property/homes. Best drop some nukes on them....."how dare you, israel havent got nukes" 😉

@LeopoldBloom I agree that antisemitism is terrible and needs to be adressed but being against the state of Israel isn't antisemitic and not all palestinians are Hamas but they are forced into a terrible situation and the abuse they have to endure makes them support Hamas out of desperation.

@gol979 Is your solution to nuke Tel Aviv?

@Gloomy They are supporting Hamas because not supporting them would be a death sentence.

I agree that being "against Israel" isn't [i]necessarily[/i] antisemitic, but it often is. I'm not sure what you mean by "against Israel." It's a country, are you saying it shouldn't exist? What if someone said they're "against Mexico?" How would you interpret that?

@LeopoldBloom I'd support anyone saying they are against Mexico. States and especially capitalist ones are failing and use their monopoly on violence to protect the interests of the wealthy.

I don't think Israel should exist but I would support safe spaces for jewish people. The way it came to be was a crime and the way it operates is disgusting.

@Gloomy OK, so you're against all nation-states.

I wouldn't say all capitalist states are failing. The democratic socialist ones seem to be doing OK at the moment. There aren't many pure communist states left; maybe Cuba and North Korea, and I wouldn't say those are exactly flourishing.

@LeopoldBloom I do think some social democracies are doing well but latest elections show a resurface of fascist and far right parties with the loss of Jacinda Arden or Sanna Marin I see a bleak future.
Cuba is an alright socialist state with flaws and an embargo and North Korea is a monarchy anyone calling it communist has no idea what it even is.

@Gloomy I would agree that NK is a monarchy. Cuba isn't under a universal embargo and the level of political repression there doesn't speak well for their system. The fact that the current president is not a Castro at least means that it's not also a monarchy.

It will be interesting to see what happens in Rojava if they ever get a break from Syrian and Turkish aggression.