Teen suicide has never been higher! Why? Divorce, fighting, and a loss of faith in Jesus is the reason!

@kodiac Many churches don't even follow Christ, they lie, or are demon posessed!

@Carazaa So obviously turning to religion doesn't work . How many parents teach their children that clergy are close to god and should be respected and obeyed , thereby putting their children into the lions den .They teach the kids the same things you post here.

@kodiac Roman catholosism is not Biblical, they worship Mary, and pray to saints.

@Carazaa It's not just a catholic problem ,it's a religion problem.

@kodiac we just can't blame all the religions for sexual abuse. Not all religions do this. Sexual abuse is a sinful global problem, and statistically speaking, in substantiated child abuse cases, 77% of children were victimized by a [u]parent[/u]. What people really want to do, is blame God for everything. If everything happened according to God's plan and will, children would not be raped, people would not be murdered, and there would be no wars or death. That was not a part of God's hope's or plan for us.

With human beings free will, comes responsibility, according to the decisions that we make, using our free will. Is God, then, responsible for our sinful decisions? for murder, etc.? Does he force people to sin? No. God is not evil. His commandments were not suggestions, but structural laws for man to follow. Man breaks God's divine laws constantly, then blames God. How convenient. God never plans to hurt anyone. He loves us and proved that on the cross, when He died to save us from the sure condemnation that [u]sin[/u] placed on us. Our response to events, depends on what we believe or know about God. People can be just as unjust to God, in their limited or confused understanding of God. Which is not fair to Him.

@LadyGrace My stats show 30%of abuse victims were by family it's estimated that 500 million children were victims of clergy abuse over the last 100 years. 500 million! In france alone 300,000 . This is a religion problem plain and simple . Free will doesn't explain why it continues while god sits by watching . So god is the victim now? What happened to god protects the little children? If your child was repeatedly raped by a member of clergy would you still feel the same? Would the free will excuse satisfy you? Yoi yourself have pointed out it not just the catholic church but predators in every branch of religion

@kodiac It is a sin problem. What abuse and shame did Jesus suffer?
He was not only the victim of lies and ridicule, he was spit upon, blindfolded, slapped by members of the Sanhedrin, and beaten within an inch of His life with a whip that had nine balls of metal attached to each strand of the whip so that when it hit the flesh, it ripped it right open to where you could see the organs. Then, “the guards took him and beat him” (Mark 14:65). In the morning Jesus was tried before Roman authorities for the purpose of gaining a death sentence. And before he was put on the cross for all to gaze upon, he was str!pped n-ked for ALL to see. Imagine that! We should focus on the fact that Jesus didn't have to suffer all that for us but he did and in fact he volunteered just because that's how much he loves us. We should focus on the fact that God promised that sin and Hate and murder and rape will all be done away with it, all the evil in this world will be done away with and punished IN THE TIME OF HIS CHOOSING, but NOW, the whole purpose in his coming was to help us to know and understand that we all have sin and we need to have it forgiven by him or else it will continue to condemn us to hell. Jesus sacrifice his own life so that we could be saved from hell and the consequences and condemnation that sin placed on us. If it were not for God, we all would have went to hell. This is what we should be focused on and not blame God for every sinful thing that happens, but rather get our lives together and in right standing with God before we pass, so we don't lose our own soul. THAT would truly be a tragedy. If we miss that, we've missed everything.

@kodiac Yes I read those stats but you act like every Church in the world does this and they don't and this is not just a problem with some churches, this is a global problem. What excuse do you use for sin, but to blame a sinless God, because you don't understand all His ways? We don't have that capacity to understand everything about God, and if we did, we would be lying. Don't forget. God cannot make mistakes. But he sure can be wrongfully judged by people. God doesn't force anyone to sin and that's why he came, to do away with sin. Rape and murder are not the only sins in this world. There are hundreds of others and so you think God should have come to prevent each and every sin that is committed on this Earth, every time it happens. Tell me how that would work. Don't forget that with sin comes [b]responsibility of the person who commits that sin [/b] and you would demand that God should stop every sin before it happens, that will hurt people, and every time something bad happens, God should step in and prevent it. If he did that, he would be denying man his free will and freedom of rights...thinking FOR man. He did not make us to be robots. If everything was perfect all the time, why would we need choice, and how would we ever learn? We would never know right from wrong and just because God knew that man would sin, does not mean that he approved of it or caused it. It means that given that God is God and He does have the ability to see the future, He loved man, His crown creation so much, that He sacrificed HIS OWN SON ON THE CROSS, just to save you and I from the condemnation SIN placed on us, so we wouldn't go to hell. This is not a God problem, this is a human sin problem.

@LadyGrace None of that has anything to do with what we were talking about. I'm sorry that jesus got tortured ,I'm sure you're not prepared for me to describe what was done to me in the name of religion in the name of your god . But just know it was worse than what happened to Jesus. Why doesn't god stop it ?

@LadyGrace Do you believe your god is omnipotent?

@kodiac [quote]None of that has anything to do with what we were talking about. I'm sorry that jesus got tortured ,I'm sure you're not prepared for me to describe what was done to me in the name of religion in the name of your god . But just know it was worse than what happened to Jesus. Why doesn't god stop it ?[/quote]

It has everything to do with what we were talking about. And yes I know about what happened to you, we have talked about that, and I could not be more sympathetic, nor sad about what happened to you, but don't blame God.

We can't say or know how badly he suffered when his hands and feet were nailed to that cross just for you and I, but you dismiss that. You can't say that Jesus didn't suffer more than you, because not only did he suffer physically and mentally, but he carried the sins of the whole world on his shoulders and suffered that. How long will you blame a perfect, sinless God? I'm so sorry but God is not the blame for the sick person that abused you. It was done because that person had a sick, sinful mind. It is really sad that In one study, 93 percent of convicted sex offenders described themselves as “religious.” Perhaps surprisingly, many sexual predators consider churches as “safe havens,” Vieth said, with trusting, forgiving adults and easy access to children. These sick predators are no respecter of how they go about raping or where they rape. We have rapist in the Boy Scouts! Sin is Sin and God will take care of it in His time. These sick people will surely go to hell, but God didn't cause it!

@LadyGrace Jesus was an adult i was a child . People really don't understand what's involved in child sex abuse, oh it was just a little touching by a gentle old priest . Sorry for going off topic . Have an awesome day

@kodiac I know where you're going with that question. Just because God is omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient, doesn't mean he causes people to sin. God promises to give justice to victims. How would you feel if he didn't do that at all? We don't always understand things like this and I wish we could, but God is never wrong. He is just above our understanding in such deep things but he assures us that those who hurt us shall be punished. For our flawed reasoning cannot understand, but one day we shall understand everything and we will see that God cannot sin and his ways were right and just.

God is not a God of sin. He is pure and sinless. Rape and violence are never God's will. God does not desire suffering. It is man that breaks God's laws and when he does, those who do such atrocious things, shall be punished in His time. Violence isnotGod’s way, and God will pursue justice, for God is just.He will punish through everlasting destructionand those who are so punished will be shut out from the presence of the Lord, forever. This will happen when Jesus Christ comes again. He will punish all evil in one sweep. God never promised to stop every sin. He did come to promise to save us from the devil's plot to take us all to hell. Satan is the author of all evil and suffering. Even death. But one day God will conquer all of that and there will be no more evil or sadness. What we're really asking when we ask or question why God does certain things is, why does God allow suffering and why doesn't he intervene? If you notice, God never intervened against people's choice to sin, in all of history. He will not interfere with man's will, good or bad. Our choices tell God where our heart really is and we would never learn, if there were no such thing as choice. And it's a good thing we do have choice because otherwise, every one of us would have died in our sins and went to hell. This is why God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden so that they would not eat from the Tree of Life and would have been forever sinful and not have the opportunity of forgiveness so that they could one day go to heaven when they died. We we're not made to be robots and that's not the way God planned, yet he certainly didn't want man to sin, but because of free will, that's what mankind decided to do, anyway. Because of that, God the Father, gave and presented to mankind, through his Son, Jesus, a plan of salvation, that would save us from the consequences of sin. It is not a sin to question God, but I believe it is a sin to blame God for the sins of mankind. His ways are not always our ways. His thinking is way beyond, above, and higher than ours. There are some things we just can't know...period. Jesus proved His love for us by giving His own life. He knows our every need and our every sorrow and he wants to love us and heal us. Each and every sorrow and sadness we have, Jesus knows and has felt. He promised to give us Justice and He will, if we will let him. Even in our legal system, when people murder or whatever, Justice is not seen right away, but eventually is delivered. Sin never goes unpunished. Not even in the spiritual world. Jesus more than proved himself, when he came to Earth and showed His love for mankind, despite his sins, and revealed why we need God and salvation. He didn't have to do that, but he volunteered, because he knew there was no other way to heaven. He made that clear, as well. He said, " I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to my Father, but by Me."

@kodiac [quote]Jesus was an adult i was a child . People really don't understand what's involved in child sex abuse, oh it was just a little touching by a gentle old priest . Sorry for going off topic . Have an awesome day.[/quote]

Don't be angry with me. I DO understand. I was onced raped. Now you know! Jesus understands even more. I didn't blame God. I blamed my abuser. And it was God who healed my heart and brought healing from the trauma and PTSD.

@LadyGrace I'm not angry ✌️