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How long do you want to live?

"Except for mankind, no other species on earth has an expectation of equality of outcomes. This is the antithesis of evolution - all genes have a right to reproduction. Mankind’s fantasy - that we should live decades past our natural lifespan - will make us impoverished us if left unchecked. Imagine exponential consumption of resources - what happens if current scientific effort to extend the huma lifespan to 150 years actually succeeds . . . "
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It's not a matter of how long we can or will live, the important factor is the quality of life as we age. My mom lived to be 97 but her last five of more years were so miserable for her. she became so dependent on caretakers, she couldn't see well or hear well and was afraid or angry much of the time.

I'm only 78 and have many physical difficulties so far. How long before I will need full time caretakers? Not a pleasant prospect.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@notyouraveragedummy what share of our nation's tax revenues should go to pay for the cost of extending human life by decades?
@SusanInFlorida I have no information on government supports for extending human life. I have private health insurance as part of my retirement plan that takes care of my medical needs so far.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
The human body is hundreds of interactive systems working in combination to mkeep us alive and functional. We have extended our expected lifespan by learning to repair or support individual systems. And thats great...But almost no one used to live long enough to develop Alzheimers, or type 2 diabetes. To make it into your 60s was an achievement.. Thats why the old age pension was set there. You were expected to be too old to be productive..
My point is that getting older is no longer the achievement. The real goal is to remain well enough to enjoy your life and not burden those around you. I dont want to live a second where I dont enjoy it...😷
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@whowasthatmaskedman I absolutely agree, and so does the scientific community, which is why reversing the aging process is the current goal. And they've managed to do it, at least in mice. There are laboratory mice living twice as long as your standard pet mouse, without any health problems to speak of.
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I mean, I wouldn't mind living to be 150 but not if I have to be old for more than half that time.

Find a way to make me have a 30-year-old body/mind for 100 years and maybe I'll reconsider...
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SW-User As I commented elsewhere in this thread, that's actually within the grasp of medical science. They've reversed the aging process in lab mice. Next is testing in dogs, I assume, and then primates. We are on our way.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@SW-User evolution is driven by new generations, not the preservation of individuals for decades (or centuries) after they're capable of reproducing.
Corporalcolleague · 61-69, M
Not a matter of how long, but how well for how long. Healthspan rather than lifespan.
Nothing that a few diseases, natural disasters, or bombs won’t take care of. Time to thin out the herd.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@ReptilianFromPlanetCrush While true, looking at various factors, its just possible the thinning will start with Americans.. So be careful what you wish for...😷
Who knows. At this point, nothing would surprise me. @whowasthatmaskedman
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ReptilianFromPlanetCrush i don't want to see people massacred in war. i don't want to see the majority of the planet's GDP spent on preserving the gerontocracy either. Let's live our livespans as nature intended - free of violent wars, and extraordinary medical intervention in the weeks before death.
As people age they seem to struggle with changes in attitude, society and the places they are familiar with. I don’t personally need to live past 90.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@WanderingSavage half of the average person's lifetime medical expenses will be incurred in the final 6 months of life. and they will still die.

hospitals are like hotels - they admit anyone as long as there are empty beds and someone to pay.
@SusanInFlorida Depending on your location.
Cabernetfranc · 80-89, M
Thoughts of a beautiful young woman who is anxious to reproduce. 🤔
Sazzio · 36-40, M
A good point but humankind may be extinguished one day... only the resources will remain left. The Earth has unmeasureable resources
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Sazzio possibly. are you familiar with the epoch known as "snowball earth"?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
I don't see a reason why there should be a cap on it. The only reason we humans start to get old is that at a certain age, a kind of biological switch turns off, and our bodies stop renewing themselves, and there's no good reason for that.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SusanInFlorida I think if we humans could be responsible with it and stop reproducing as much, the augmented lifestyle wouldn't be a problem.

Are you familiar with the elf effect? It's a theoretical side effect of augmented lifespans. In fantasy and science fiction, whenever a society is introduced to the story where the people live for hundreds of years, there's always a shortage of children in said society. If the main character or characters bring a child or young person to the kingdom of the immortal people, somebody always makes a comment along the lines of "We have not seen a youngling in centuries."

That's how society would need to adapt in a world where people don't die of old age after a mere 70 to 100 years.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@LordShadowfire i haven't read about the elf effect, i must confess. does it play out in the real world, or just in literature?

one theory posits that lower fertility rates in WEIRD nations (Western, Educatetd, Industrialized, Rich, Democratic) comes from the certainty that more of their kids will live to adulthood.

There are competing theories involving the excessive use of drugs, television, internet porn, gambling, affordable birth control, etc.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@SusanInFlorida
i haven't read about the elf effect, i must confess. does it play out in the real world, or just in literature?
Thing is, we don't really know. We don't have a real world society yet that corresponds to the Elven Realm in a fantasy novel. However, the reason scientists have speculated that it would play out that way is that if you're no longer dealing with a ticking biological clock that only gives you a few short decades to have a baby, you feel less pressured to pop one out.

 
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